DCS: F-5E!

[pepin1234]

Is quite accepted when you look for an awaited aircraft like F-5.

[Drag0nWIng]

just 10 days to june.

and much better then those game pre-sale/pre-ordered on steam which early access for many years.

[TomCatMucDe]

just 10 days to june.

and much better then those game pre-sale/pre-ordered on steam which early access for many years.

 

 

 

There will be nothing in June, it's July-August. In Other words end of August :)

[Kelevra9987]

There will be nothing in June, it's July-August. In Other words end of August :)

 

... early September

[Raven68]

There will be nothing in June, it's July-August. In Other words end of August :)

 

I feel it will be towards the end of that time frame also.

[WelshZeCorgi]

 

Instant purchase.

[IvanK]

The pre purchase info says ...."Martin Baker SIII S-3 ejection seat" .... No such animal :) Most F5E's stuck with the original US Northrop seat. Some countries upgraded to a Martin Baker BRQ7A seat (Brazil and Iran for example). The SIII S-3 moniker sounds more like a Stencil seat designation ... not that the F5E was equipped with these either.

The images released show the Belsimtek F5E to be equipped with the Northrop seat.

 

Edited May 21, 2016 by IvanK

[mkellytx]

Normally, when I think of trying to defeat a fighter that has better radar, I'm going to want to hide in ground clutter and ambush them as they fly past or something similar. The funny thing is, Florida and the surrounding Caribbean area is about as 2D as it gets. There is nothing to hide behind, and the land is about as flat as the ocean around there. Somehow, the instructors in their F-5's were able to get the drop on F-18's and Harriers with those cool radars, and the earlier F-14 with its giant flashlight.

 

I should have asked more about how they did this when I had the chance. I did note that the Hornet pilots found the F-5's to be extremely frustrating to fight against because they were notoriously difficult to see and tended to pop up in the rear quarter after it was too late to get away from them. Apparently, once they get saddled up, there's not much you can do to escape.

 

This is where a good RWR comes in handy, as mattebubben's said repeatedly. So, one possible way that happens is that the APG-65/73's on the Hornets and Harriers does act like a flashlight in an dark room telling everybody where you are. Provided the RWR is very sensitive and has the right software it can detect the radar, before the radar has enough returns to detect the F-5. Next, put the radar on the 3-9 line and drive past the Hornet/Harrier's gimbal limit while losing some altitude. Once there the RWR should still still be in a side lobe and have enough signal to give an accurate bearing, now the F-5 can start to turn in.

 

Staying low makes the F-5 harder to spot visually and the Hornet/Harrier easier to see against the sky, once visual drive to the target's blind spot, get behind their 3-9 line and pop up.

[agentdarnell]

The pre purchase info says ...."Martin Baker SIII S-3 ejection seat" .... No such animal :) Most F5E's stuck with the original US Northrop seat. Some countries upgraded to a Martin Baker BRQ7A seat (Brazil and Iran for example). The SIII S-3 moniker sounds more like a Stencil seat designation ... not that the F5E was equipped with these either.

The images released show the Belsimtek F5E to be equipped with the Northrop seat.

 

The s-iii-s was made by UPco

[jcbak]

Frankly, I would have liked to see BS make the Eagle fully clickable than put out this limited use aircraft. The F5 will be another module with a limited number of missions.

[Raven68]

Frankly, I would have liked to see BS make the Eagle fully clickable than put out this limited use aircraft. The F5 will be another module with a limited number of missions.

 

Quick snapshot: The F-5E can do A2G were as the F-15 can't. Is it limited in A2A? To some degree yes, but it definitely has it's place!

[hughlb]

Frankly, I would have liked to see BS make the Eagle fully clickable than put out this limited use aircraft. The F5 will be another module with a limited number of missions.

 

It would be great to have a full Eagle module, given it's present integration into DCS. However, I think the F-5 has a place. It's both a ground and air combat aircraft, it already has a perfect companion module in the MiG-21, it can be used in an aggressor role in the Nevada map, and is applicable to the Strait of Hormuz. It's used by many air forces. On top of that, it will provide an outlet for all those Top Gun MiG-28 fantasies, later this year ;) As a weapon of the United States, yes it's a limited choice, and it has limitations more generally for BVR combat, precision strike - it's a basic fighter. But I think there's plenty of merit in including it.

 

On a personal note, as with the MiG-21, I feel a sense of accomplishment in taking the underdog into a fight and beating a more capable opponent!

Edited May 22, 2016 by hughlb

[Schmidtfire]

I think the F-5E will make a great addition to DCS! It will be simple enough to fly and understand. A clickable F-15 or F-18, while in theory sounds great. Is simply to much to handle for most users and casual flyers. I think it's great to have both advanced fighters and oldschool jets, where more time is spent on flying than fiddling with systems. There is room for both.

[Dennis]

I think the F-5E will make a great addition to DCS! It will be simple enough to fly and understand. A clickable F-15 or F-18, while in theory sounds great. Is simply to much to handle for most users and casual flyers. I think it's great to have both advanced fighters and oldschool jets, where more time is spent on flying than fiddling with systems. There is room for both.

Totaly agree!

 

Sent from my SM-N910F

[TomCatMucDe]

I think the F-5E will make a great addition to DCS! It will be simple enough to fly and understand. A clickable F-15 or F-18, while in theory sounds great. Is simply to much to handle for most users and casual flyers. I think it's great to have both advanced fighters and oldschool jets, where more time is spent on flying than fiddling with systems. There is room for both.

 

 

 

You remember when ED threw a pill to ask for our wishes for DCS in the near future. I think they wanted to setup their priorities after the merger in DCS 2.5.

One of the options was 4th Gen fighters, I suspect it meant before all migrating the current FC3 to full level sim.

I think migration is inevitably coming, people just need to be patient :)

[jcbak]

Quick snapshot: The F-5E can do A2G were as the F-15 can't. Is it limited in A2A? To some degree yes, but it definitely has it's place!

If a fully clickable F-15C and the F5 were both available and you had the cash for one...which would you buy?

[Kev2go]

Frankly, I would have liked to see BS make the Eagle fully clickable than put out this limited use aircraft. The F5 will be another module with a limited number of missions.

 

 

DCS isnt strickly all about 4th generation fighters. It has aircraft from various eras. some people might want to experience simming in older aircraft.

 

 

besides BST even stated they chose to develop F5 because meant to be a competitor to leathernecks Mig21bis.

 

why would have the Mig21bis be a orphan aircraft? and only fight itself, or be forced against newer aircraft that outclass it? i think not. its better IF it has a western opponent

 

F5 also doubles as a USN/ USAF aggressor aircraft, which would fit in training scenarios for the Nevada map.

 

 

 

The F5 certainly has a place in DCS.

Edited May 22, 2016 by Kev2go

[mattebubben]

If a fully clickable F-15C and the F5 were both available and you had the cash for one...which would you buy?

 

I would buy the F-5E.

[Kev2go]

I would lean in more for the F15C if we had no F15 at all.

 

However

 

 

as it stands having a F15C in FC3 ( even its not fully clickable) Id certainly Buy the F5 over a new F15C module because its entirely new to DCS.

 

 

Either way not a fair comparison because different aircraft, different role, and different generations.

[WinterH]

If a fully clickable F-15C and the F5 were both available and you had the cash for one...which would you buy?

 

F-5E

[BlackLion213]

If a fully clickable F-15C and the F5 were both available and you had the cash for one...which would you buy?

 

I'd buy the F-5E, especially knowing that the F/A-18C is on the way and the current functionality built into the FC3 F-15C.

 

Aircraft of the F-5E's era are my favorite and I like the diversity over expanding the scope of the F-15C. Just my preference.

 

-Nick

[Python]

Frankly, I would have liked to see BS make the Eagle fully clickable than put out this limited use aircraft. The F5 will be another module with a limited number of missions.

 

You're assuming this isn't being worked on behind the scenes. I'd say there is room for both. I'd love the F-15c to become a full module, but at the same time, I'm very excited for the F-5. DCS isn't just about the best fighters for me, it is about enjoying the aircraft and how they handle, learning the systems etc. And this F-5 should be fun to play with... When we get the Eagle, I'll upgrade my FC3 version to that also.

[Chrinik]

If a fully clickable SU-27SM and the F5 were both available and you had the cash for one...which would you buy?

 

Fixed.

 

 

Still bought the F-5. Clickable FC-3 aircraft will be years from now.

[Dudikoff]

If a fully clickable F-15C and the F5 were both available and you had the cash for one...which would you buy?

 

F-5E sounds more attractive personally as the DCS F-15C wouldn't bring any new capabilities over the FC3 one, while the Tiger is somewhat multi-role. But, an F-15E would be an entirely different kind of flying altogether..

[shagrat]

F-5E sounds more attractive personally as the DCS F-15C wouldn't bring any new capabilities over the FC3 one, while the Tiger is somewhat multi-role. But, an F-15E would be an entirely different kind of flying altogether..

^this