** DCS: F-14 Development Update - September!! **

[OnlyforDCS]

What is the 27 days countdown on the landing page? Release or preorder?

 

Read the OP. It's some sort of "unveiling". That's all we know.

[blc]

Wow, just amazing!

Can't wait!!

[uscstaylor]

I will purchase

[Bloodhound57]

I do not think you have to worry about them holding off.

[Tompa73]

Why not just wait until the next sale to buy the F-5 and use those savings towards the F-14? :smilewink:

 

 

On the next sale I probably buy AV-8B or hornet :pilotfly:

[pimp]

On the next sale I probably buy AV-8B or hornet :pilotfly:

 

Harrier or Hornet on a sale? Good luck with that. :) At least not any time soon.

[Lieuie]

Harrier or Hornet on a sale? Good luck with that. :) At least not any time soon.

 

The Harrier has already been on sale once.

[Borg]

Holdback bar

 

Wow it look amazing.And more work on carrier.Hope you implement the Holdback bar when we connect to the cat.

[Koriel]

just wait for Chuck Guide :)

 

Any word on wether Heatblur has involved him yet?

[flyingscotsman]

Thanks Charlie, it’s amazing what have to be aware of, better safe than sorry. A loti of us will struggle without you on this one, but your dead right to be wary.(Chucks Guide to staying out of jail?)

Thanks

Edited September 16, 2018 by flyingscotsman

[Koriel]

I have answered a similar question in the past.

 

I can relate to your reasoning. I do thank you for your other guides.

[Nealius]

Just out of curiosity, is this embargo specifically against the F-14, and not other Iranian aircraft of American origin like the F-5?

[turkeydriver]

Just out of curiosity, is this embargo specifically against the F-14, and not other Iranian aircraft of American origin like the F-5?

 

Lets just say anything regarding proper simulation of the F-14- even today- over a decade after its retirement, is of interest to those watching. The F-5 does not offer unique capabilities usually reserved for superpowers. The F-14 offers speed, range, detection, and destruction capabilities that most other countries can only mitigate through numbers or tactics. They cannot afford to mimic or beat this. Its a MiG-31 that can dogfight. Its just too bad we haven't destroyed them yet.

[CheckGear]

Lets just say anything regarding proper simulation of the F-14- even today- over a decade after its retirement, is of interest to those watching. The F-5 does not offer unique capabilities usually reserved for superpowers. The F-14 offers speed, range, detection, and destruction capabilities that most other countries can only mitigate through numbers or tactics. They cannot afford to mimic or beat this. Its a MiG-31 that can dogfight. Its just too bad we haven't destroyed them yet.

 

 

Except the F-14s flown by Iran aren't what you think they are. Few are in decent flying condition and most are poorly-maintained. Most important, the pilots are like most Middle East pilots - not great. When faced against U.S. and Western pilots, they're screwed.

 

 

Nobody should be in awe of Persian cats in the least bit.

[itstheLIKWID]

Except the F-14s flown by Iran aren't what you think they are. Few are in decent flying condition and most are poorly-maintained. Most important, the pilots are like most Middle East pilots - not great. When faced against U.S. and Western pilots, they're screwed.

 

 

Nobody should be in awe of Persian cats in the least bit.

 

They might be in poor condition ie not well looked after but to know they are still flying puts a little smile on my face. Had a fascination with the tomcat for years since I was a kid.

 

Very much an adult but haven't lost that enthusiasm I had as a child :thumbup:

[CheckGear]

They might be in poor condition ie not well looked after but to know they are still flying puts a little smile on my face. Had a fascination with the tomcat for years since I was a kid.

 

Very much an adult but haven't lost that enthusiasm I had as a child :thumbup:

 

 

I won't lie; I couldn't help but smile when I saw the video from 2016 where the Iranian F-14s were escorting Russian Tu-95 'Bear' bombers on their way to a target in Syria. But I also know those Tomcats are dead meat if they were to ever square off against U.S. or Western fighters.

[schurem]

Nobody should be in awe of Persian cats in the least bit.

 

Sorry to bust your bubble kid, but even if your position is akin to a schoolyard bully, a real warrior will respect his opponent. Be aware of his capabilities and take great care not to underestimate them. The IRIAF is not a little nerd you can just shove in a locker. He can and will punch back.

[Gunslinger1-1]

Except the F-14s flown by Iran aren't what you think they are. Few are in decent flying condition and most are poorly-maintained. Most important, the pilots are like most Middle East pilots - not great. When faced against U.S. and Western pilots, they're screwed.

 

 

Nobody should be in awe of Persian cats in the least bit.

 

in 1984 a single IRIAF F-14 intercepted 4 mirrage F-1 that were flying to kharq island. just before firing those AIM-54, pilot noticed that mirrages has change their heading towards the tomcat. so pilot decides to avoid firing those expensive AIM-54 and enter dog fight with 4 mirrage F-1!!!. the tomcat evade about 7 missiles from mirrages and continued dogfighting for 10 minutes before mirrages run away to their base for emergency low fuel ( none of the mirrage F-1 reached their base due to no fuel ). so dont worry, they wont screw up facing any other pilots. ( cant count how many hornets has been drawn off the IRANIAN air space by IRIAF F-14)

[westr]

Except the F-14s flown by Iran aren't what you think they are. Few are in decent flying condition and most are poorly-maintained. Most important, the pilots are like most Middle East pilots - not great. When faced against U.S. and Western pilots, they're screwed.

 

 

Nobody should be in awe of Persian cats in the least bit.

 

That’s a bit harsh. The IRIAF tomcats had an impressive combat record during the Iran Iraq war. Even with conservative estimates of downed aircraft.

[zcrazyx]

That’s a bit harsh. The IRIAF tomcats had an impressive combat record during the Iran Iraq war. Even with conservative estimates of downed aircraft.

 

Not to mention they now carry Russian missiles and likely a lot of reverse engineered tech, I think a lot of people underestimate the capabilities of the aircraft because of the embargo however that also works in their favour as they were forced to adapt.

[The LT]

Most important, the pilots are like most Middle East pilots - not great. When faced against U.S. and Western pilots, they're screwed.

 

Ever heard of Jalil Zandi?

[Schizwiz]

Briliant work,really Heatblur,this is going to be an outstanding work of art.

 

 

Cheers on that awesome bird the F14 is.

[hansangb]

Let's stick to dogfighting in DCS make-believe world. And let the real aviators worry about the real world.

 

 

 

*BEFORE* this thread gets shutdown due to politically charged debates.

[Baco]

The Harrier has already been on sale once.

And the Hornet was on sale for three months before launch.

[CheckGear]

That’s a bit harsh. The IRIAF tomcats had an impressive combat record during the Iran Iraq war. Even with conservative estimates of downed aircraft.

 

 

Not harsh at all. The Iran-Iraq War ended 30 years ago. The question is, what are those remaining Tomcats like now? What are the IRIAF pilots like today?

 

 

I'll give you a hint: it's probably not good:

 

But what about those Tomcats in the recent video? How many are left, and what kind of juice do they have? Mark Bobbi, principal military aircraft analyst at research outfit IHS Aerospace, asserts that the IRIAF is a "shell" air force. "They're good at making it look like they have more airworthy combat aircraft than they actually do," says Bobbi.

 

 

Even those who like to play up the IRIAF Tomcats' performance in the Iran-Iraq War forget how devastating the conflict was to both sides. Neither country truly recovered from it and there is a near-unanimous consensus Iran now poses little to no conventional military threat to the region nor the world (this is not the same as saying they pose no threat overall, mind you).

 

 

 

Not to mention they now carry Russian missiles and likely a lot of reverse engineered tech, I think a lot of people underestimate the capabilities of the aircraft because of the embargo however that also works in their favour as they were forced to adapt.

 

 

Give this a read:

 

According to The Aviationist, these F-14AMs have been adapted to the aircraft's fire control system. The blog also reports that the jets carry the AIM-54+ "Fakour-90" missile, a partly reverse engineered, upgraded version of the Phoenix.

 

The reports don't impress IHS' analyst, who says Iran has little defense industrial capacity to make new parts for F-14s (like engines and large structures). Bobbi concedes that Iran may have received limited Russian help in fabricating reverse-engineered fan blades, for instance, but asserts that such fabricated pieces would likely have very limited life.

 

As for radars and missiles, the Iranians may have added some new wrinkles, likely by working around the F-14A's AWG-9 system, for which the last code written was probably in the mid-1980s, Bobbi points out. Even if add-on radar and weapons control systems are working with the AWG-9, the airplanes carry a weight penalty lugging it all around.

 

The Tomcat is difficult to maintain and expensive to fly, reasons cited for its retirement from US Navy service. Given the paltry number of aircraft still operational, along with maintenance demands and expense, Bobbi posits that Iranian F-14 aircrews overwhelmingly fly desks. So they're not highly capable, adding to the likelihood that if they ever came up against American F/A-18 Super Hornets or F-22s, they'd be toast.

 

https://www.autoblog.com/2016/01/30/islamic-republic-f14-feature/

 

But it's not even about how low-skill the Iranian pilots are, it's more about how U.S./Western pilots are educated and trained. Simply put, they know how to get the most out of their aircraft, know the latest in tactics, and sometimes know the enemy better than the enemy knows themselves. It's not just about hardware, it's the people operating the hardware that makes the difference.

 

 

That said, I look forward to splashing Iran's F-14s in the air or dropping bombs on them while they're still on the ground. If we can't have them, neither can they.:pilotfly: