[REPORTED] High-quality A-10C cockpit switch logic

[Ziptie]

Is the HUD really that size in real life? Seems so small and hard to use!

 

The HUD on the hornet and F16 is wayy easier to see. I find myself having to move head position forward from default on the A10 to see the waypoint text

 

Using VR or 2D? Maybe monitor size if 2D is the issue? Don’t know.... I use VR, have 20/15 vision and can see the HUD just fine.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don (callsign Ziptie)

[Snoopy]

airworthy aircraft are not all scratched, dirty and battered on the inside.

 

LOL obviously you’ve never sat in a real A-10 cockpit with a comment like this.

[SkateZilla]

LOL obviously you’ve never sat in a real A-10 cockpit with a comment like this.

 

To echo that, when was the last "NEW" A-10C Cockpit Sat in?

[Sn8ke]

To echo that, when was the last "NEW" A-10C Cockpit Sat in?

 

Can we edit the textures of the new cockpit in photoshop? If so where are the files located?

[randomTOTEN]

Here's my thoughts on the new cockpit. I'm a TrackIR player.

 

 

I love it!

Yeah, it could use some increased lighting intensity, but otherwise it's fantastic. The HUD is different, but I believe the reason is explained by this quote.

The A-10s HUD only appeared in full view before because the pilot was sitting way forward.

This was my experience in the old cockpit. The view was much lower and more forward, and that allowed all the HUD to fill the glass/frame. This new "eyepoint" is much more accurate in relation to the 3D pilot model as viewed from the outside, and leads me to believe the RL pilot cannot see all the HUD from a single position as well.

The higher and farther aft (realistic I believe) eyepoint also allows for more downward visibility of the HUD (where the pipper is going to be :thumbup::thumbup:) and this really makes the HUD a great match for a primary ground attack aircraft. Very nice job!

 

 

I was equally frustrated by the large ejection seat handles which block the view of many switches/CDU, but looking at real photos they are in fact that big, and obviously some artistic license was taken with the previous version. A good correction, even if they frustrate the virtual pilot. You can click "through" them too...

 

 

 

For you "brand new" cockpit advocates.. y'all are just plain WRONG :)! I will eagerly await the dirtiest, most worn, cockpit which I can download. These airplanes are on their second pair of wings they're so old.:pilotfly:

[Avio]

Just to be sure, I just stumbled on the news of the free new A10C cockpit upgrade, but could not find the update download anywhere.

 

Is this update released yet? If not, when?

 

Thank you.

[randomTOTEN]

Avio,

 

 

The cockpit update was released 2 days ago into the OpenBeta branch.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4143422&postcount=83

[Avio]

Ahh okay. Mine is World 2.5, not open beta.

 

Any idea when would it be available for the 2.5?

 

 

Avio,

 

 

The cockpit update was released 2 days ago into the OpenBeta branch.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4143422&postcount=83

[escaner]

Can we edit the textures of the new cockpit in photoshop? If so where are the files located?

 

 

Yes. I did it, moving the white point from 255 to 200 in the histogram and it is a nice improvement in daytime (about 25-30% of the histogram range is unused, but not sure whether the problem is this or low ambient illumination). I want to do it again with a stronger setting anyway.

 

 

Look for a file named A-10C-2019-CPT-TXT.zip, they are in there. I had to install the Intel dds plugin for PS.

[OttoPus]

Great work, I love the new cockpit.

[blackasdf]

This new "eyepoint" is much more accurate in relation to the 3D pilot model as viewed from the outside, and leads me to believe the RL pilot cannot see all the HUD from a single position as well.

 

This community is really lucky to have some people with real world experience and instead we rely on beliefs. Do you really think that the real world jet has a messed up HUD like we have now or it's more likely that with the new geometries of the cockpit the HUD rendering is now messed up?

 

Just because ED did something you like, doesn't mean it's how it should be. (and we know from people with real world experience that the HUD is fully visible in the jet)

 

Also, if i follow your thinking, why does the HUD fit the whole HUD frame in VR now and it's only messed up in 2D (messed up exactly how it was in VR since this patch).

 

You should express your appreciation if you like something, this doesn't mean that you should convince yourself that new problems are instead features and real characteristics of the jet.

[Shimmergloom667]

This community is really lucky to have some people with real world experience and instead we rely on beliefs. Do you really think that the real world jet has a messed up HUD like we have now or it's more likely that with the new geometries of the cockpit the HUD rendering is now messed up?

 

I'm pretty sure the RL Hog drivers here said, that the HUD visibility is sub-par in RL, too. Perhaps someone will chime in.

[ac5]

My car doesn’t spend 6+ months at sea on a carrier.

 

And what about that cockpit BEFORE spending 6+ months on a carrier? Would Douglas or Boeing deliver to the military a multi-million aircraft with a worn-out cockpit?

[hancerPL]

Hello

This new cockpit sucks.

The lighting is too low, the switches can only be seen on night vision.

HUD is a failure, you can not see zero degree of ascent and descent. HUD is too high.

Functionally, the new cockpit is not good.

Amendments are required to fulfill its role as the previous one.

[Chapa]

The new cockpit is gorgeous!

 

I agree about the lightning issue, it’s really annoying. I am starting the basic qualification campaign and even with lights on, I see nothing in VR, too dark. Concerning the view, I did a snapview and it seems to do the job for the moment.

 

The issues will be solved, no need to worry and be so rude...

[ThorBrasil]

The new cockpit is very beautiful. A masterpiece. Congratulations ED! I can't wait for a 3D and Textures update to happen with the F-5E, Mi8 and Huey and all the old modules.

[MemphisBelle]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but wasn´t the A-10C now supposed to (finally) receive a Pilot body? I thought it would come with the new Cockpit. Are there any Infos around about this?

 

apart from this, I like the new Cockpit very much. So far I´ve just tested in in VR and it looks great.

Edited December 20, 2019 by MemphisBelle

[firmek]

I like the new cockpit. It's for sure a good starting point though the switches look a bit plastic. Heaving the clean pit it should be possible to create a weathered one. I would love to see the A-10 cockpit becoming closer to the standard of F/A-18 though - which is looking really great.

 

As for the default head position. Is it really such a big problem? If you don't like it, it takes just a moment to change it...

 

Something that wonders me is the sound. Bare with me as I had a really long break flying A-10. I remember the engine sounds had been much more pronounced, especially the signature growl at higher revs. Now it's barely possible to hear the engines due to a really high noise - I guess from the avionics and wind. To an extend it's like in F/A-18A where it just too loud. Was that a recent addition included with new pit or it has been like that since some time?

Frankly speaking the really high level of noise in both F/A-18A and A-10C just makes them a pain to fly. I don't care how realistic it is. Heatblur found a really great balance with F-14. I'm not the fan of "hear like in helmet" option as it just muffles the sound. It's only F/A-18 and A-10 which are so loud that this option becomes a must.

[ac5]

Hi firmek,

 

I agree, the sound is bad. Though, here you have the solution:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=230832

[firmek]

Hi firmek,

 

I agree, the sound is bad. Though, here you have the solution:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=230832

Great, I have noticed some files posted in that thread. I'll check them out. Though the sound will be always to some extend a subjective thing I would really like ED to have a look on F-18 and A-10C. Those are just too noisy and too loud comparing to other planes. F-18 had always been like that but A-10C IMO had much better sounds in the past.

[ac5]

Great, I have noticed some files posted in that thread. I'll check them out. Though the sound will be always to some extend a subjective thing I would really like ED to have a look on F-18 and A-10C. Those are just too noisy and too loud comparing to other planes. F-18 had always been like that but A-10C IMO had much better sounds in the past.

 

Well, with that modification in the thread I pointed out, the A-10 has a very nice sound.

[HoneyBadger]

Does anyone not really like the new textures? They feel like the older JF-17 cockpit textures before Deka updated them

[sleepycanuck]

That is a big 10-4! Loved the update to the Warthog. In VR it now looks like it is all there (not partially painted on). All the lighting is correct now. A big "Thank You" goes out to ED and the update team that executed this. It is obvious that a lot of hard work was put into this. (As a Black Shark fan I am now twice as pumped about its impending update ;-) )

[randomTOTEN]

No sure if it was mentioned in the last 13 pages, but performance is FANTASTIC on my 2D system too! Perhaps even better than the old one?

[Ziptie]

Does anyone not really like the new textures? They feel like the older JF-17 cockpit textures before Deka updated them

 

Afirm sir, I am a fan of the updates - along with others. Going in the correct direction for sure.

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don (callsign Ziptie)