announced DCS MiG-29A

[Dragon1-1]

4 hours ago, Mars Exulte said:

 They literally make up a lot of this. They use references when able, but yeah. Lots of absolute ''pulled out of their ass'' stuff, too. Like RCS values.

No, they don't. They use (and ask for) sources all the time. They work with SMEs and use available documentation, and if that's not available, the aircraft doesn't get made. This is why we don't have many otherwise cool aircraft. ED and many 3rd parties refuse to make stuff up just to make them. Mirage 2000 was an exception and RAZBAM had since learned its lesson.

RCS values are wrong because radar modeling needs an overhaul (which it's currently getting, I might add), they don't really correspond to reality. Ideally, those values would be either taken from sources, for older aircraft, or calculated using openly available software for radar modeling. However, this would require an improved radar model. Right now, you need to input fake values to get real results. Don't take anything that's in the configs at a face value.

DCS is not just a video game, but a way to learn about how things are done in real aviation. In fact, in many aspects it's like a virtual museum, allowing people to experience aircraft the way that's simply no longer possible. You can't go and fly an F-14B anymore because there are none left anywhere in the world. Nobody wants made up stuff in a museum. Admittedly, there are still MiG-29As flying, but not in their Cold War configuration.

[Gierasimov]

Did you notice how Fulcrum is a victim in the pre-order video for Mudhen? With current Fulcrum I splash 1vs. 4 ACE Mudhens in revenge!

[bies]

On 2/16/2023 at 7:20 PM, Dragon1-1 said:

Most people, including ED, don't want an "improvised" late generation MiG

Yes and "Improvised" is just a buzzword for totally unrealistic, fictional and made up, working completely different than real counterpart.

What's more late MiG-29 like SMT are overweight, underpowered, poor performance dogs, literally the only interesting thing would be their avionics - strictly classified, which would be, by far, the least realistic and most made up part of the module.

Far cry from powerful, nimble original lightweight MiG-29 9.12 with great kinematic performance at the pick of MiG-29 era.

[Dragon1-1]

Kind of like the later F-16s, Block 30 was the last one that could be called "best dogfighter in the world". I suppose SMT is a good enough performer, but it's not the original, lightweight hotrod that the -29A is. We'll need an F-16A to go with it, ideally an early block with a small tail and no chin hardpoints.

1 hour ago, Gierasimov said:

Did you notice how Fulcrum is a victim in the pre-order video for Mudhen? With current Fulcrum I splash 1vs. 4 ACE Mudhens in revenge!

Done with the Steam version, I hope?  

[Gierasimov]

44 minutes ago, Dragon1-1 said:

 

Done with the Steam version, I hope?  

I see your point, but no, I do standalone DCS only. 

 

Edited February 18, 2023 by Gierasimov

[Jojothebox]

On 2/14/2023 at 6:04 PM, Gierasimov said:

I honestly struggle to understand your point, but let us NOT derail this thread please. Share a nice photo of Fulcrum instead

he has a point though. to my knowledge the reason we haven’t gotten one yet is because of lack of working available airframes and system data to use as reference. i’d likely throw in deciding which model of fulcrum to use since there’s so many. if ED is making it there’d likely only be one version. but to my next point, in 2023 and beyond and the tiktok there’s a german livery on the 29 so maybe there’s a hint that it’s a german model? whatever the case i can’t wait too see what happens 

Edited February 24, 2023 by Jojothebox

[Gierasimov]

@MiGCap1 Did you take a photo of 29+4 (2960525111) or / and its original - I think - 628?

Here is how it looks now:

 

Edited February 24, 2023 by Gierasimov

[MiGCap1]

Perhaps I have a slide of 29+04 anywhere in my archive. But not scanned.

[Gierasimov]

Really nice video by Polish Air Force. 

 

[Ironhand]

28 minutes ago, Gierasimov said:

Really nice video by Polish Air Force. 

Very nice indeed.

[Gierasimov]

Check this out! Stunning DCS Fulcrum video by haze

https://youtu.be/Fcsp5uM0QB8

 

[Ashayar]

On 4/9/2023 at 1:46 PM, Gierasimov said:

Check this out! Stunning DCS Fulcrum video by haze

https://youtu.be/Fcsp5uM0QB8

 

Very cool thanks!  

[portman]

Am 16.2.2023 um 01:29 schrieb MiGCap1:

Yes, we took over 20 MiG-29A's and four MiG-29UB's from the East German Air Force and converted them to MiG-29G's (G for "Germany") and GT's (for "German Trainer"). If you do a module for an A You also have an East German jet and an early Luftwaffe jet. You can "germanize" it easily (changing for example the altimeter from meters to feet and so on) which of course would help all our Western players to use the jet. And You have the choice between the red and the blue side in the game ... just change the nationality markings. 

To "germanize westernize" the plane you would have to swap the whole navigation system (RSBN -> TACAN), the radio, the IFF, disable the laser range finder and - IIRC - throttle the engines  and then you can change the nationality markings from "dark side" to "bright side".

Sorry, I just can't resist rivet-counting 

[MiGCap1]

You are completely right. But I am, too. 

I used the word "germanize" for the conversion from MiG-29A and UB to G and GT (the "German" versions).

And before "westernization", which took part in the early 1990s, actually only the nationality markings were changed, from the GDR flag to the Iron Cross. Cockpit stayed basically the same initially. When I remember right, the very first change was that the wife of one of our former East German pilots spoke the voice messages new (I even can't remember if in German or English. Later the voice messages were in English). And the laser range finder was also disabled very fast.

I checked my flight log and found that my first flight in a Luftwaffe FULCRUM was in an UB in 1994 and only from 1995 on I see GTs. But compared to my two flights in GDR UBs I think the gauges already were changed from the metric system, even as the "westernization" was not done in full extent yet (sorry, I can't remember everything precisely, it's three decades from now).

[Gierasimov]

[FlankerKiller]

Gorgeous!

[Mateo]

I have released new skin based on @59th_Jack livery of the Polish Air Force MiG-29 (download here). It has got reworked camouflage, new weathering effects, and appropriate texture file of airplane numbers. It might be a great opportunity to replace the old and a bit unrealistic default skin of the Polish Air Force in DCS. During online gameplay not everybody have downloaded realistic Polish skins, default one in DCS is simply outdated and a bit less realistic. It would be great to add it to DCS core and set as default DCS skin for Poland. There was none of such Polish repaint that allow you to choose airplane tail numbers within the DCS mission editor and display it as it should - actually it was the main reason to make such universal repaint.

 

 

[draconus]

On 4/20/2023 at 2:49 PM, Mateo said:

During online gameplay not everybody have downloaded realistic Polish skins, default one in DCS is simply outdated and a bit less realistic. It would be great to add it to DCS core and set as default DCS skin for Poland. There was none of such Polish repaint that allow you to choose airplane tail numbers within the DCS mission editor and display it as it should - actually it was the main reason to make such universal repaint.

It'd be best to approach @BIGNEWY or @NineLine with your generous offer to ED. The bug in the Polish livery was reported years ago.

[Furiz]

 I know its not A but worth a watch, MiG-29K take off form a carrier.

 

 

[twistking]

I really want a mig-29. I don't really care which version as long as it's not one of the FBW-Migs.
And please allow us to carry whatever western stuff the ukrainians managed to integrate/hack together (Harm, JDAM, Zuni?)...
 

[Bronco]

We all want the Mig-29... and ED what are you waiting for?

[bies]

15 hours ago, Bronco said:

We all want the Mig-29... and ED what are you waiting for?

ED wanted to make Soviet or WarPac 1983 MiG-29 9.12, they already have all the data to model it, documentation, subject matter experts etc. Russian government new law forced ED to withdrawn. Maybe some 3rd party developer will try in the future.

[shinobi61]

oh didn't know that, dashed my hopes

[Seaeagle]

19 hours ago, twistking said:

.... I don't really care which version as long as it's not one of the FBW-Migs.
 

why not?

[MAXsenna]

ED wanted to make Soviet or WarPac 1983 MiG-29 9.12, they already have all the data to model it, documentation, subject matter experts etc. Russian government new law forced ED to withdrawn. Maybe some 3rd party developer will try in the future.

Withdrawn from releasing I guess.
By now it's probably finished.

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