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On 1/22/2021 at 12:52 PM, Sharkku said:

I use a very similar setup, with main spring removed from the TM Warthog HOTAS stick. TM Pendular rudders are costly, but boy, what a difference compared to my old Logitech plastic pedals.

 

I have the Index headset now, pretty similar to the CV1, just a little higher resolution. Used to fly with the CV1. 

 

One important thing: Do you have the collective axis reversed, so that you increase lift/collective by pulling backwards? It mimics real life more closely, and enabled me to fly a real helicopter competently on my first lesson. Really recommend it. 

Yes ofcourse. I fly still with the CV1, but i'll upgrade to the G2 eventually or if a better headset comes along after a while. I'm also aiming for the Virpil collective set that comes out this year if they arent priced too high.

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14 ore fa, Raven (Elysian Angel) ha scritto:

Dedicated helo controls always are, because they're so niche. There is no mass production, which drives up the unit cost.

You should probably only buy such a setup if you're really serious about flying helicopters. This is overkill for casual use.

 

Yeah I understand that...

I don't even have the basics for helicopter flying. I used Jane's Longbow when I was a little boy, but didn't touch RW till then.

I would like to learn and become serious about it, but till now my first attempts with the Huey are failing, I am barely able to take off and cruise with it, but everything else turns into a disaster 🙂

So until I will learn better I will stay with usual aircraft controls... I would need an instructor I think 🙂

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Yeah I understand that...
I don't even have the basics for helicopter flying. I used Jane's Longbow when I was a little boy, but didn't touch RW till then.
I would like to learn and become serious about it, but till now my first attempts with the Huey are failing, I am barely able to take off and cruise with it, but everything else turns into a disaster
So until I will learn better I will stay with usual aircraft controls... I would need an instructor I think
Get a really cheap used stick, that you can mod to non-centering. That'll get you a long way.

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On 1/24/2021 at 5:35 PM, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Yes it's quite a bit more convenient for helo flying than a fixed wing setup. It takes quite a lot of getting used to obviously, but it's worth the effort since it's a more authentic experience.
I've had this thing for over 3 years now.

One other disadvantage is the amount of time it takes to switch from helo to fixed wing and back again: I don't have room for both setups simultaneously, so it takes a bit of tinkering to switch back and forth to set things up just the way I want to. Obviously I don't do that too often...

 

That's one of the reason why I only fly helo anymore 😉


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For those using rudder pedals with office-type chairs, how are you preventing your chairs from rolling and/or rotating when you push on the rudders? I guess it's less of an issue with helicopter-style pedals where one can keep one's heels on the ground, but what do people who have to keep their whole foot on the pedal do?

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I used to fly with an office chair, and what I did was rolling the chair sideways into "flying position" instead of rolling it forward, so that the wheels are rotated perpencidular. That prevents you from sliding backwards most of the time, but it can still be an issue.
I since then moved to a "one person sofa" from which I removed the wheels.

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Use keyboard for throttle and keyboard for anti-torque, my set up makes it practically impossible to do simultaneous inputs apart from cyclic and rudder.

 

It's difficult but doable, but I almost never do anything combat related in the Huey, nor do I do sling loading; though I probably if I get a throttle + pedals/VKB twist adapter.

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Il 29/1/2021 at 12:19, jym ha scritto:

For those using rudder pedals with office-type chairs, how are you preventing your chairs from rolling and/or rotating when you push on the rudders? I guess it's less of an issue with helicopter-style pedals where one can keep one's heels on the ground, but what do people who have to keep their whole foot on the pedal do?

 

I have 3d printed blocks under my chair wheels that prevent them from rolling.

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I make do with an old (17 years) Saitek X-45 and no pedals. Not the ideal setup and I plan on upgrading everything later this year. I am able to fly the Huey decently, though lack range of movement and precision on the stick to do the more advanced stuff.

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Saitek X56 with spring removed and Saitek pedals.  Anyone using Trim with the Huey and no spring joystick?  I don't even use because the stick will just lay over if I let go of it.  Still having problems getting the axis tuned but I think it's more of an issue with the flight dynamics of the Huey, it's really a bit squirrelly and needs an update or more fine tuning capabilities like that of the X-Plane Huey.  No IRL flight time in a Huey only a Bell 222 to compare it to.  Sorry if I went a little off topic.

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I use T16000 stick + hotas + MFG Crosswinds.  I inverted the throttle so pulling it towards me is like lifting it up. I had tried to fly the Huey when it was free to play in the past just using the joystick and throttle and it wasn't fun AT ALL. I recommend the MFG Crosswinds over anything made of plastic! They may be a little price but they will last.

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Getting by with a VKB NXT stick and Logitech X-56 throttle. Using one of the rotaries on the throttle for rudder.

On 2/6/2021 at 9:18 AM, Zap921 said:

Saitek X56 with spring removed and Saitek pedals.  Anyone using Trim with the Huey and no spring joystick?  I don't even use because the stick will just lay over if I let go of it.  Still having problems getting the axis tuned but I think it's more of an issue with the flight dynamics of the Huey, it's really a bit squirrelly and needs an update or more fine tuning capabilities like that of the X-Plane Huey.  No IRL flight time in a Huey only a Bell 222 to compare it to.  Sorry if I went a little off topic.

Try this on the X-56 stick. Works great with the center spring removed.

 

 

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Very cool, nice job on that!  I went without the spring to get closer to the feel of a real cyclic which doesn't want to naturally return to center.  The joystick would better way better if it had no spring and some type of adjustable friction to lightly hold it in any position that you set it in once you tightened it.  Four gas shocks which stayed in your desired position in your setup would be excellent also as long as the friction wasn't to high to move the stick.

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The Mikhail Collective, working great.

 

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I use a Thrustmaster HOTAS X. It's a decent set for the pre-covid price, though seems a bit pricey now thanks to the short supply. I also plug in my G27 h-box, to get a bunch of extra buttons, a second d-pad, and the stick itself (essentially 7 more "buttons"), since I fly VR so can't really use the keyboard. It works well but I'd really like some pedals at some point.


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On 1/30/2021 at 12:25 PM, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

I used to fly with an office chair, and what I did was rolling the chair sideways into "flying position" instead of rolling it forward, so that the wheels are rotated perpencidular. That prevents you from sliding backwards most of the time, but it can still be an issue.
I since then moved to a "one person sofa" from which I removed the wheels.

 

I got something similar to these.  

https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Stationary-Separate-Adhesive-Included/dp/B071VBFMF5

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3D printed collective with AB412 head (huey head option available):

 

 

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Hall sensor for collective, regular pot for throttle. 2 arduinos in the head for controlling 2 mini sticks and 17 buttons (8 switches + 1 button) and 1 final arduino in the base (connected to head via 4 cable I2C) for the collective and throttle axis and final USB connection.

 

http://hc625ma.org/single-engine-collective/

 

 


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On 3/2/2021 at 4:37 AM, pacastro said:

3D printed collective with AB412 head (huey head option available):

 

 

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Hall sensor for collective, regular pot for throttle. 2 arduinos in the head for controlling 2 mini sticks and 17 buttons (8 switches + 1 button) and 1 final arduino in the base (connected to head via 4 cable I2C) for the collective and throttle axis and final USB connection.

 

http://hc625ma.org/single-engine-collective/

 

 

 

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For several years I have been using my own Lego design with mjoy16 electronics.

I have set the axis of the collective inverted for helicopters.

 

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Il 2/3/2021 at 04:37, pacastro ha scritto:

3D printed collective with AB412 head (huey head option available):

 

 

collective - Imgur.jpg

Hall sensor for collective, regular pot for throttle. 2 arduinos in the head for controlling 2 mini sticks and 17 buttons (8 switches + 1 button) and 1 final arduino in the base (connected to head via 4 cable I2C) for the collective and throttle axis and final USB connection.

 

http://hc625ma.org/single-engine-collective/

 

 

 

 

I tried to build that too (with huey head) but I've always had electronic issues (maybe due to my bad skills in soldering), so I quit the project and buy Mikhail's collective.

 

Il 11/2/2021 at 03:59, javelina1 ha scritto:

The Mikhail Collective, working great.

 

 

 Being built mostly in metal it's a lot more solid than the plastic 3d printed project and works flawlessly.

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