Patch notes discussion thread 2022

[Recluse]

I guess I was Lucky-ish.  I have seen ABOUT a  10-15% reduction in framerate (I7-7700K, RTX 3070, Quest 2) in VR, but I also think the Quality has declined slightly. That could be my imagination.

Used to sustain 40 fps with my settings now I am bouncing around 33-36, though I hit 45 at times over featureless terrain or pointing at a clear sky.

Still playable, we need all the VR help we can get to squeeze out the performance.

[funkster]

Disappointing.

Not sure what "WWII AI warbirds: improved behaviour"  were made as patch notes are vague.

However clearly not the following examples;

• The AI taking off on a runway occupied by the player.  
• The AI ZOOM CLIMB with ridiculous engine settings that the player struggles to match without frying an engine! 
• The AI stops and "zig zags" about the sky like the infamous "tic tac" UFO video. 

Not asking for the world here but basic AI would be nice. 

I had hopes with the "tonal " gamma changes however still looks washed out ...especially at 2.2.

Not testing / breaking Viacom - poor show. 

Night Lighting is nice in PG. 

FPS counter is good

Edited October 29, 2022 by funkster

[St4rgun]

Quick feedback on Persian Gulf, sunset, Overcast and rain 3 preset, M2000, SP.

1. The new FPS counter is neat. The SIMULATION number is all over the place hence some performance drop.
2. New lighting is great, very nice!
3. Clouds are as heavily aliased as before (or worse) on Standard, while setting it to Ultra is a bit better but still pretty much aliased
4. Rain droplet effect on canopy glass is beautiful in VR, but:
   1. Unusable on Ultra clouds because of heavy frame drop, kind of usable on Standard
   2. When turned off the droplets in VR the head tracking became broken in rain (moving the image glued to my head movement)

Specs are in my signature. I'm using ingame MSAA 2x with nVidia Control Panel AA for transparency 8x supersampling.

Edited October 29, 2022 by St4rgun

[Dragon1-1]

2 hours ago, Tenebrae Aeternae said:

If ED doesn't know how a cockpit fov adjustment should work what hope there is? 

Things like that get overlooked, and besides, if it's reported as a bug and they intended it, they'll know they screwed it up.  

It's a huge patch, stuff gets overlooked. Maybe it was intended to save to a config, but someone forgot to put in the function to write it, then it got overlooked in testing. This happens all the time in programming, and that's why OB exists. To catch bugs ED closed team didn't.

[Pasquale1986]

@BIGNEWY you guys could have mentioned, that you gave Liwa AFB a very nice and comprehensive scenery upgrade! very very nice guys!

[schurem]

I just took a flight through overcasr and rain 2 . It left me in tears of joy. So beautiful!

[Art-J]

3 hours ago, funkster said:

Not sure what "WWII AI warbirds: improved behaviour"  were made as patch notes are vague

Keep in mind patch notes mentioned improved AI behaviour only while landing in pairs, not in other flight or combat scenarios, so even though notes are always incomplete, it's unlikely other changes were made.

[Hotdognz]

16 hours ago, JSArcher said:

Click the arrow , it's actually smaller than the old one.
 

I'm loving 2.8. Thanks ED.

 

Found after I changed to the map view in VR, now its minimized the FPS counter looks much better.

[monacoBMW]

Very big fan of 2.8 so far. Some great improvements to the F10 map and the night lighting on PG is stunning.

[Surrexen]

15 hours ago, zildac said:

So, some more testing this morning. Shadows to Flat, OFF or Default make zero difference to me. I’ve gone from 86FPS when looking straight out through the HUD in Hornet ready on the ramp Caucasus to 60 ish. No MODS other than Open composite and OXRTK. No other in game settings changed. And it is ALL CPU frametime. My CPU FT pre 2.8 in the same scenario was 9, it's now 16. Something is very, very wrong.

Specs are in my sig.

 

@BIGNEWY happy to provide more info if it helps track down the culprit.

 

Update: rolled back and performance is back to where it was

 

I too am having such bad performance in 2.8 I'm rolling back.

[Peter5on]

Just to say i have around 5fps performance boost in 2d, same settings like in 2.7 but distant clouds on ultra still have a lot of shimmer and strange rendering bugs like pixelization. For me this update is nothing special sadly but more fps is always a good sign.

[giullep]

Idem…this patch causes too many issues….fps, shadows, shimmer…. I will roll back

And i lost every keybinding for every module…i must restar manually to bind every module (f-14 f-16 f-18 ah-64 mi24…) absurd..

[-0303-]

Clicking on the FPS counter opens an blinking cursor and the FPScounter cannot be RCtrl+Pause dismissed until clicked outside.

Feature or bug?

[Gunfreak]

Anyone know how to fix the voice attack not working? Not being able to bring up menus, center vr etc with voice attack is really cramping my style.

[Dangerzone]

51 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

Anyone know how to fix the voice attack not working? Not being able to bring up menus, center vr etc with voice attack is really cramping my style.

Do you have VAICOM as well? If so you're going to need to uninstall it. VAICOM is broken, and abandonware with 2.8.  (See the VAICOM thread for more info) 

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/168657-vaicom-pro-plugin-for-voiceattack

[Gunfreak]

1 minute ago, Dangerzone said:

Do you have VAICOM as well? If so you're going to need to uninstall it. VAICOM is broken, and abandonware with 2.8.  (See the VAICOM thread for more info) 

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/168657-vaicom-pro-plugin-for-voiceattack

Nope, not vaicom, just voice attack 

[Dangerzone]

2 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

Nope, not vaicom, just voice attack 

Have you checked your bindings in DCS? I think some of the functions have been relocated from individual units to a general / UI layer and may need to be re-assigned. Outside of that I have no idea sorry.

[Gunfreak]

7 minutes ago, Dangerzone said:

Have you checked your bindings in DCS? I think some of the functions have been relocated from individual units to a general / UI layer and may need to be re-assigned. Outside of that I have no idea sorry.

Checked the bindings, tried to rebind and redo voice attack commands too.

[corbu1]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Gunfreak:

Nope, not vaicom, just voice attack 

Sounds no good…..just thought only Vaicom is affected. If there are also Problems with Voice Attack, the trouble gets bigger….

Edited October 30, 2022 by corbu1

[MAXsenna]

Checked the bindings, tried to rebind and redo voice attack commands too.

What does the VoiceAttack log say?
I have some issues, but I thought they were all due to VAICOM not able to communicate with DCS. But my ordinary VA commands stopped too, while working with other apps.
For me it says "can't find target app" or similar.

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[Gunfreak]

34 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

What does the VoiceAttack log say?
I have some issues, but I thought they were all due to VAICOM not able to communicate with DCS. But my ordinary VA commands stopped too, while working with other apps.
For me it says "can't find target app" or similar.

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Jupp same here.

If I say give me menu(esc) 

I get this message. 

 "Unable to get a target for command 'Give me menu' (Profile Level).  Check the, 'Send commands to' setting in Profile Options."

[MAXsenna]

Jupp same here.
If I say give me menu(esc) 
I get this message. 
 "Unable to get a target for command 'Give me menu' (Profile Level).  Check the, 'Send commands to' setting in Profile Options."

And you have never used VAICOM?
The plot thickens...
I did get that from time to time previously, even with other apps, like my Spotify plugin and others. A complete restart of the computer usually solved it.
This might not be DCS related, so I'm thinking about heading over to the VA Discord. The hangarounds are always willing to help.

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[cordite]

But the Voice attack dev is still active, yes? So it should still be solvable?

[javelina1]

I flew the Apache yesterday afternoon and used Voice Attack.  It worked just fine, though a couple of commands had some issues maybe due to rebinding, which I plan to recheck today.  A while back, I ended up disabling VAICOM (as noted in that specific thread).

[Silver_Dragon]

2 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

And you have never used VAICOM?
The plot thickens...
I did get that from time to time previously, even with other apps, like my Spotify plugin and others. A complete restart of the computer usually solved it.
This might not be DCS related, so I'm thinking about heading over to the VA Discord. The hangarounds are always willing to help.

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Recomend the folks, move to the propper VIACOM / Voiceattack post, that is a post about the last patch.