Bob1943 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 My F-16 cockpit shows a furry, fabric covered cockpit seat. Hard to believe they actually upholster the real F-16 seat with this type of fabric. Is there anyway to get the seat covering to show a leather or vinyl type upholstery in the DCS model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extranajero Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) It's a sheepskin cover. I bet they cost the US taxpayer about as much as a whole herd of sheep and the farm they live on as well There's a green covered set of cushions under it. The covers look to be a Nomex type material, the same stuff they use for flight suits. I think they stopped using leather for seats in aeroplanes about the same time as they stopped putting ashtrays in cockpits Edited January 2 by Extranajero My keyboard keeps double tapping the ii key 6 --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman222 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) Get ready for the "correct as is" tag. My grandfather had that on the seat in his car. Felt awesome to sit on. Especially in winter. And what's good for grandfather's cars is also good for F16s I guess. Edited January 2 by darkman222 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinozherous Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 14 hours ago, Bob1943 said: My F-16 cockpit shows a furry, fabric covered cockpit seat. Hard to believe they actually upholster the real F-16 seat with this type of fabric. Is there anyway to get the seat covering to show a leather or vinyl type upholstery in the DCS model? Correct as is. Boeing also puts sheepskin on its cockpit seats. (At least in the past) I would always prefer to sit on sheepskin over leather.. . It gets sweaty sometimes in a fighter cockpit. i7-14700KF 5.6GHz Water Cooled /// ZOTAC RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB /// 32GB RAM DDR5 /// Win11 /// SSDs only DCS - XP12 - MSFS2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I've so far been convinced that the ultra-fluffy seat cover is the main selling point of DCS: F-16C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extranajero Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 37 minutes ago, Kang said: I've so far been convinced that the ultra-fluffy seat cover is the main selling point of DCS: F-16C That's what sold me on it, although leopard print would be even better 2 --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob1943 Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 Thanks for the replies. Would have never guessed that they were actually using that kind of material. As far as I can remember (been over 50 years), all the USAF planes that I flew (T-37, T-38, F-111, F-100, F-4, A-37) had some type of synthetic, dense canvas type material on the seats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumminJ219 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 The Viper seat is actually one of the most comfortable seats out there. I think the recline actually helps alot with that. Typically don't even complain about it until I hit hour 8+ in the seat, but by then I'd complain about anything I was stuck to for that long. And yes, it's covered in that "fluffy" covering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJWest Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I assume the reason they don't have fluffy dice to go with the seat is because there's nothing to hang them from? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman99 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 16 hours ago, Rhinozherous said: Correct as is. Boeing also puts sheepskin on its cockpit seats. (At least in the past) Honestly, the sheepskin compresses and flattens rather quickly, years on, there's not much difference to a cotton/synthetic cover, except it catches and hides more crumbs/filth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 11 hours ago, Bob1943 said: Would have never guessed that they were actually using that kind of material. I think it's fair to say that if it wasn't realistic, it wouldn't be there. I've sat in a Lynx cockpit which also had sheepskin seat covers, and it was extremely comfy Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Gigabyte RX6900XT | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | HP Reverb G2 Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2+3 base / CM2 x2 grip with 200 mm S-curve extension + CM3 throttle + CP2/3 + FSSB R3L + VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS "HIGH" preset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Briscoe Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Gray sheepskin covers on the front seats of my first car, 1980 Honda Civic - plus real wood gear shift knob! At 16, it felt like i was flying a Viper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenkom Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Sheepskin is used because it doesn't compress while still providing comfort. If they used foam or something like that then during an ejection then the seat cover would compress and the subsequent impact of the seat hitting your ass could have adverse affects on your spine. I heard this explanation from a pilot interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 5 hours ago, Tenkom said: Sheepskin is used because it doesn't compress while still providing comfort. If they used foam or something like that then during an ejection then the seat cover would compress and the subsequent impact of the seat hitting your ass could have adverse affects on your spine. I heard this explanation from a pilot interview. Plenty of sheepskin at work from A32X and A330, but for the life of me, can´t find the ejection seats i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | DIY Collective | Virpil desk mount | VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 3x TM MFDs | 2x bass shakers pedal plate| SIMple SIMpit chair | WinWing TakeOff panel | PointCTRL v2 | Andre JetSeat | Winwing Hornet UFC | Winwing Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q3ark Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Even the old gazelle helicopter used by the British army had sheepskin seat covers. Friend of mine in the air corps “acquired” one when they retired them and uses it when he’s simming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I have a sheepskin pad on my chair, warm in the winter and cool in the summer, always comfortable 1 Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman222 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Now the next question arises. To all the people with home built sim pits: Who is the 100% F16 nerd with a sheep skin seat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry.R Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) On 1/4/2024 at 11:46 AM, Tenkom said: Sheepskin is used because it doesn't compress while still providing comfort. If they used foam or something like that then during an ejection then the seat cover would compress and the subsequent impact of the seat hitting your ass could have adverse affects on your spine. I heard this explanation from a pilot interview. Depends on which seat and which aircraft, for example one popular seat manufacturer supplies seats with foam or sheepskin depending on the end user requirements. For example, this F-16 seat has foam by the looks of it: https://martin-baker.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/US18E-Seat-Data-Sheet-2023-with-QR.pdf Edited January 5 by Harry.R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJWest Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 7 hours ago, Harry.R said: Depends on which seat and which aircraft, for example one popular seat manufacturer supplies seats with foam or sheepskin depending on the end user requirements. For example, this F-16 seat has foam by the looks of it: https://martin-baker.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/US18E-Seat-Data-Sheet-2023-with-QR.pdf Shouldn't that be 'users end' requirements? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 1/3/2024 at 5:40 AM, DrumminJ219 said: The Viper seat is actually one of the most comfortable seats out there. I think the recline actually helps alot with that. Seat itself is fairly comfortable, but the recline is actually a pain in the neck. Quite literally, too, particularly when wearing the JHMCS. And yeah, like others had said, that nice and fluffy sheepskin cover is standard on the Viper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 1/3/2024 at 6:27 PM, Keith Briscoe said: 1980 Honda Civic the best! constantly on three wheels. On 1/4/2024 at 12:33 PM, Ala12Rv-Tundra said: Plenty of sheepskin at work from A32X and A330, but for the life of me, can´t find the ejection seats for 277 passengers. ask the captain to eject the ass in seat 33a please AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry.R Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 1/5/2024 at 10:06 PM, AndyJWest said: Shouldn't that be 'users end' requirements? Sorry, that was a bit of a bum steer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAP Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The ACES II seat is also in the A-10 which has the same sheep skin seat. When you are sitting in a single seat fighter for 8+ hours during a combat sortie it really starts to matter what you are sitting on. I've also heard one of the reasons is because if they had a big cushy foam pad, the foam would compress during the ejection and you'd effectively be getting hit from below by the seat which could cause injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
void68 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Am 5.1.2024 um 14:20 schrieb darkman222: Now the next question arises. To all the people with home built sim pits: Who is the 100% F16 nerd with a sheep skin seat? Well, no real nerd, but I (loosely) covered my pit's seat with sheep skin. It's great in winter and still soft and not too hot during summer. My butt and my cat love it. Never fly without one! Just have to force the girlfriend to sew it onto / around the seat sometime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vettecor Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Its good at soaking up the pilot's farts for when the crew chiefs have to safe up the cockpit after a flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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