Miramar and North Island, San Diego - CA

[stenji]

I think would be great to recreate the Top Gun movies scenario. It's ok, I know Fightertown is not anymore a NAS but belongs to USMC, anyway I think it would be great to pretend it like in the 80's.

[Mike Force Team]

It is unlikely that ED will do updates on the NTTR map.

Mike Force Team 

[draconus]

23 hours ago, Mike Force Team said:

It is unlikely that ED will do updates on the NTTR map.

Who said anything about NTTR map?

[Micr0]

+1 To Miramar.  That's a legendary location 

[Jayhawk1971]

Yes, that would be great!

Ideally a map including Southern California and western Arizona (to include the Yuma TACTS range). Even more "idealier", make it NAS Miramar from the 1980's (not present-day MCAS).

Either a brand new map, or maybe an "NTTR 2.0" module (sold separately from NTTR, maybe with discount for current NTTR owners?) , which could be renamed to "DCS Southwestern US", with updated textures, including NAS Fallon, Edwards AFB, Fort Irvin/ NTC. I suppose there could very well be enough demand to justify the development costs.

And while we're in the process of wish-listing, maybe later another map featuring the opposite coast: Oceana/ Virginia Beach area?  

Edited October 15, 2024 by Jayhawk1971

[Gierasimov]

Upcoming DCS Earth will make it all possible, since ED already stated they want to make it better than the other sim and seeing how that other sim new version is going to look, I have a strong feeling that DCS Earth project will allow us to enjoy it very much... 

[ShroomSister]

Adding my support for a Southern California map. +1

Please include up to Los Angeles (or further... San Francisco?) if you do this. Flying between skyscrapers is not practical/realistic in real life... but in a simulator, it is unbelievably fun.

[R. Winters]

NAS Miramar addon for MSFS. Only fuels my desire to see NAS Miramar in DCS! Pls E.D or some Dev. please make this!

 

[_Hoss]

MCAS Miramar......

[Andrew8604]

Definitely NAS Miramar!  ...about 1980, maybe.  If you want an MCAS, then El Toro, just to the north!  Call it the Miramar Map, or SoCal Map, or Fightertown Map?

• NAS Miramar (Fightertown - F-4s, F-8s, F-14s, E-2s, Top Gun - A-4Fs, F-5Es, TA-4s)
• NAS North Island (S-2 Trackers, S-3 Vikings, CH-46s, SH-3s, SH-2s)
• NAF El Centro (Winter home of the Blue Angels)
• NAS Pt. Mugu (Pacific Missile Test Range)
• NALF San Clemente Island
• MCAS El Toro (F-4s, F-18s, C-130s, CH-53s?)
• MCAS Yuma (F-4s, AV-8Bs)
• MCAS Camp Pendleton (AH-1 Cobras, CH-46s)
• March AFB (B-52Ds, KC-135As, C-130s, T-38s?)
• Davis-Monthan AFB (F-4s, A-10s, A-7Ds?)

Include scenery of southern Arizona out to include Tucson and Davis-Monthan AFB, and Pacific Ocean out to about 127-deg West longitude.  Somehow, do not go nuts with the city scenery details of Los Angeles and Phoenix...maybe just flat satellite imagery for those cities to try to keep file size down and framerate up.  About 500nm of ocean to the west (Warning Areas W-289 & W-291, where the Tic-tac UFOs were, later on) and 350nm of mountains and deserts to the east of NAS Miramar, out to about 110-deg West longitude, giving an 850nm run, east to west.  Keep it just about 200nm north to south.

I'd definitely purchase this map!

Edited May 8 by Andrew8604

[_Hoss]

I was in the Navy from 77-97 and we didn't fly S-2s then... Only E-2C Hawkeyes.

Although we had one US-2 on the Connie when I was Ships Company on her 79-82. I never saw it moved from it's parking spot in Hanger Bay 1. You also forgot the helo base at Imperial Beach, south of Corando and the Amphib base on the Strand.

When the A-7E comes out we need NAS Lemoore and NAS Fallon. The F-4s and F-14s can reenact TopGun with the F-5, and A-4s. While the A-7 hits the bombing range. 

VA-127 Cylons were the aggressor squadron then, they were at Lemoore for a bit after I got there and then went to Fallon.

Nothing really went on down south except daily ops. 

After I PCS'd off the Connie I spent eleven years at NAS Lemoore, at AIMD (DECM Avionis), VA-94, and NAMTRAGRUDET (Instructor.. DECM gear). Nothing exciting went on there either. LOL..... 

The most excitement we had was the earthquake in Coalinga in 83, and the Air Force crashing an A-10 in the cotton fields. 

Edited May 9 by _Hoss

[Andrew8604]

7 hours ago, _Hoss said:

I was in the Navy from 77-97 and we didn't fly S-2s then... Only E-2C Hawkeyes.

Although we had one US-2 on the Connie when I was Ships Company on her 79-82. I never saw it moved from it's parking spot in Hanger Bay 1. You also forgot the helo base at Imperial Beach, south of Corando and the Amphib base on the Strand.

When the A-7E comes out we need NAS Lemoore and NAS Fallon. The F-4s and F-14s can reenact TopGun with the F-5, and A-4s. While the A-7 hits the bombing range. 

VA-127 Cylons were the aggressor squadron then, they were at Lemoore for a bit after I got there and then went to Fallon.

Nothing really went on down south except daily ops. 

After I PCS'd off the Connie I spent eleven years at NAS Lemoore, at AIMD (DECM Avionis), VA-94, and NAMTRAGRUDET (Instructor.. DECM gear). Nothing exciting went on there either. LOL..... 

The most excitement we had was the earthquake in Coalinga in 83, and the Air Force crashing an A-10 in the cotton fields. 

Yeah, the S-2's were probably prior to '75.  I just put them as an example.  Aircraft changed through the years.  Basically, it's the base in a configuration of runways and buildings to more-or-less cover a range of years.  And the mission designer places whatever aircraft/vehicles they want, static and dynamic. I remember seeing the relatively slow turning props of the S-2's, C-1's and E-1's on North Island or possibly on an Essex-class CVS carrier (my memory is a little fuzzy that far back), from the harbor excursion tour boats in about 1969-72, when I was a kid.  The USS Bunker Hill CV-17 (AVT) was still there.

I'd be all for NAS Lemoore and NAS Fallon.  It's just how much can be done in a map before it reaches half a TB on the hard drive?  That's why I tried to constrain the physical size of my "vision" of a Miramar map.  Lots and lots of houses would not be on the map if representing 1980.  It was about 1981, an F-14 flew just about over me at night and crashed about a half mile away.  I was indoors and didn't see it, but I heard the loud rumble of the engines, two pops, and eerie sudden silence.  Pilots made it, no one hurt.  Missed houses by a hundred yards, maybe.  I didn't forget NOLF Imperial Beach, just didn't mention it to be brief.  I just figured, if the map does get made, those airbases and airports are sure to get included.  ...as well as the navaids of the day...NDBs and VORTACs that may no longer exist today.  The Navy had Brown Field in the '50s-60's, I believe, too.  PAR (Precision Approach Radar) may not exist anymore at MCAS Miramar, not sure; but it was there in the early 1980s, I had a UHF receiver back around then and could hear controllers talking the pilots to the runway.  That would be another neat feature to have added to DCS...even if by mod.  Their AI controller voices could be nicknamed "Wash Out" and "Ramada".  

[Andrew8604]

Actually, they could model the Miramar map modern day, if it made it easier.  It would still be cool!  Modern Miramar probably has more ramp space.

F/A-18C & D's  ...in their final days.  This would work for everything from FJ-2 Fury's (F-86F) to F-8 Crusaders to F-4B & J Phantom II's to F-14's.  So long as the spawn points align precisely with the markings and the spawn headings are correct!!

F-35s under the "tents" and C-130s.

Osprey's and CH-53's.

Field Carrier Landing Practice markings with FLOLS (or Optical Mirror Landing System) are there, with field arresting gear.

And an LHD deck for the helos and AV-8Bs and F-35s

[jymp]

On 10/15/2024 at 10:11 AM, Jayhawk1971 said:

Yes, that would be great!

Ideally a map including Southern California and western Arizona (to include the Yuma TACTS range). Even more "idealier", make it NAS Miramar from the 1980's (not present-day MCAS).

Either a brand new map, or maybe an "NTTR 2.0" module (sold separately from NTTR, maybe with discount for current NTTR owners?) , which could be renamed to "DCS Southwestern US", with updated textures, including NAS Fallon, Edwards AFB, Fort Irvin/ NTC. I suppose there could very well be enough demand to justify the development costs.

And while we're in the process of wish-listing, maybe later another map featuring the opposite coast: Oceana/ Virginia Beach area?  

Yes, +1 on Oceana/Virginia Beach/Norfolk area, "DCS Southwestern US" sounds great as well.

[GTFreeFlyer]

This would actually be a great training map to compliment NTTR and not be another desert map.  Lots of activity between Miramar, Camp Pendleton and out to San Clemente Island.  Allows for carrier ops off shore and bombing training on the island, and also for fun sightseeing around San Diego / SoCal.  Maybe some imaginary “border patrol” missions as well.