Patch discussion September 2024

[Mr_sukebe]

Thoughts:

• Downloaded faster than I expected, so that's cool
• I struggled to see any FPS improvement.  Having said that, my "guess" from the release notes are that the enhancements are likely to reduce the instances of say a big terrain texture being loaded which might have previously resulted in something of a hiccup and stutter in game.  I certainly didn't notice any of those, so that's great
• Very happy to see additional enhancements to the maps.  That was a WHOLE bunch of new helicopter pads in Syria, excellent

Great to see such a wealth of updates, my thanks

[motoadve]

Observations:

Thanks for fixing/improving the smoke in WWII planes

Thanks for Fixing the D9 random engine failures, although the sound of the motor has changed and it used to be better.

New dots work great with Aero VR

VR performance not better for me, there is a bit of stutter now that was not there before patch.

[NoJoy]

Thanks for the update ED! My frames are back up to where it were before - maybe even little better.

With my older rig I'm back at 60 - 80ish from 10 - 15 with the august update.

< I7 6700K@4500, 32GB@3200, NVME SSD, GTX1080>

[BIGNEWY]

1 minute ago, NoJoy said:

Thanks for the update ED! My frames are back up to where it were before - maybe even little better.

With my older rig I'm back at 60 - 80ish from 10 - 15 with the august update.

< I7 6700K@4500, 32GB@3200, NVME SSD, GTX1080>

great to hear and thank you 

[hannibal]

im performing a fresh OS install .. looking to try new patch

[bengo]

17 hours ago, IMGX said:

Space on HD?

Don't think so. 890GB available.

[Raisuli]

2 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

The Launcher resets yet other settings?  

Somebody uses the launcher? 

So far no issues, other than some eye candy on the ground at Ramat getting shifted around.  Nothing quite like spawning in with a canopy support running through your spine, but the aircraft and I seemed fine once I taxied out from under it.  Did some eaggbeater runs to check out new heliports, overflew Beirut at mach 1.something, then landed and had lunch at this really awesome place near the waterfront (no idea why all the windows in town were blown out). 

No skips, stutters, or problems.  Performance was excellent on my antique 2080ti; I'm due for a refresh when the 5 series comes out.  No (almost no) mods either.  Maybe those are related.

[Ghost79]

21 hours ago, Ghost79 said:

Can someone elaborate on this please?

 

targets and shooting detection by AI units as well as launchers' line-of-sight routines are revised, major parts of the performance-consuming code moved to a parallel thread.

 

specifically the first part.

 

@BIGNEWY or someone at ED, can you explain the above for me please?

[Exorbit]

Love the performance improvement in VR. Not a fan of the spotting dots implementation. I felt it worked better in the previous patch. Understood it's WIP. 

Besides that, I think it's running great and it's quite a joy to fly.

Crystal, PD_1, Native res

[BIGNEWY]

38 minutes ago, Ghost79 said:

@BIGNEWY or someone at ED, can you explain the above for me please?

basically the processing for these tasks were moved to another thread which has increased performance 

[PLUTON]

hello everyone,
i have a reverb G2 can't i use quad views with this headset because they are grayed out in the vr setting of DCS?
or do i need third party software?
thanks for the help

[YoYo]

46 minutes ago, Exorbit said:

Love the performance improvement in VR. Not a fan of the spotting dots implementation. I felt it worked better in the previous patch. Understood it's WIP. 

Besides that, I think it's running great and it's quite a joy to fly.

Crystal, PD_1, Native res

Yes, the patch is great and I also see improvement, thank you ED . However, as for the rest, I fully agree, BIG DOTS BOX has been introduced again , which had very bad reviews, in fact, someone has recently made some progress, but now we have two steps back in this respect. It spoils the effect of immersion and surprise. The targets are visible from 30 nm. It was not perfect recently but much better, now we have returned to what was the worst of all these patches. We hope that some FIX will come out and at least they will return to the earlier version, when it was realistic and it was a compromise. Besides, it is enough to read the opinions in the section on visibility and VR problems to conclude that what we have now is the wrong way. In fact, if it's currently WiP, I don't know why they brought this version back. We could have waited for this new version, and not gotten this worst option.

[Red_Pilot]

I have had really poor spotting with my 31,5 inch monitor. Now spotting is a little better for me though its definitely not so easy as usually VR players describe about 2D players. Basicly 2- 3 km of distance is problem, but distant dots I often can't see too despite I have  seen by enemy very clearly.  If dots / lods will be smaller for everyone (both for VR and 2D players) I perhaps will see nothing at all 

I use DLAA

Edited October 1, 2024 by Red_Pilot

[NAM]

24 minutes ago, PLUTON said:

hello everyone,
i have a reverb G2 can't i use quad views with this headset because they are grayed out in the vr setting of DCS?
or do i need third party software?
thanks for the help

You need to install mbucchia quadview first.

https://github.com/mbucchia/Quad-Views-Foveated

You may need to also goto steamvr setting in OXR section to enable quadview addon .. (it is bit unintuitive that one have use steamvr to enable quadview).

Quadview works great in HP G2. It will definitely give you a boost

[Art-J]

3 hours ago, Glide said:

Did you fly it?  Both the TF-51D and the F-16 have new rudder code, and it's very broken. 

I did. TF-51D flies as it always had and its rudder works as it always had. No FM or rudder changes here, that's for sure. I do seem to recall someone reporting rudder issues when using keyboard, but that was already a few patches ago.

If you use the new launcher, double check if it hasn't reset auto-rudder special option for you. 

Can't comment about F-16, 'cause I don't own it.

[PLUTON]

Thanks for the quick reply,
i don't use Steamvr, but i use Open xr
how is the setting done because i just downloaded and installed Quadviews?

[twistking]

The son-9 radar now has a directional cone in it's radar range visualization in ME.
However it's still able to scan and track 360°. Which i assume is realistic.

What's the deal with the directional cone in ME?

[NAM]

15 minutes ago, PLUTON said:

Thanks for the quick reply,
i don't use Steamvr, but i use Open xr
how is the setting done because i just downloaded and installed Quadviews?

I am too use Openxr, but easier way to enable quadview is via steamvr.

i remember that there is another method involved setting in window registry, although i am not 100% sure).

May you opening a new thread, hopefully @mbucchia can help you with another method to eanable quadview without steamvr

[TheFreshPrince]

My feedback is, I do not see any performance increase at all. If any, it got a bit worse on the ground and at low altitude. I also have an older system.

[schurem]

On my box its right smooth and fast. Lovin it!

[Usagi]

I am having problems with my 1TB DCS drive. It's too small for patch... 

There's almost 200GB of free space but it seems that updater want's to use more during process: 'No enough free space in the download folder'

Is there any way to specify custom location for a download folder?

[cfrag]

There seems to be a severe (CTD) new bug in the Sept-30 release. Below mission runs without problems in previous version, and CTD when you press F-10 in the new version. 100% reproducible for me. It will make at least the following missions crash, so please be advised to not play them until a bugfix has been issued by the kind folk at ED: Expansion, Angels (Caucasus, Sinai, Syria), COIN Ops, Cesar, Dustblower, Heroes of Flame, Marianas Proving Grounds, FC 2024, Kiowa Kitchen, probably more. 

Pity.

Press F-10 to crash.miz

Edited October 1, 2024 by cfrag

[Moxica]

Heatblur deserve honorable mentioning.
They are the real bosses.
What a work philosophy! What impressive talent!
(Imagine if they were behind the Kiowa!)

Edited October 1, 2024 by Moxica

[MAXsenna]

17 minutes ago, Usagi said:

I am having problems with my 1TB DCS drive. It's too small for patch... 

There's almost 200GB of free space but it seems that updater want's to use more during process: 'No enough free space in the download folder'

Is there any way to specify custom location for a download folder?

I assume you mean use another disk and not a folder? You can redirect the _download folder anywhere with symlinks.

[mmarques]

So... about 

• Cargo. Added ability to carry cargo internally for Mi-8, Mi-24P and UH-1H. WIP (known issue cargo may clip into gunner model)

Did someone forget to approve a pull request or have we not figured out how it works? @BIGNEWY