fixed CPU runs +20° hotter in idle after update to 2.9.16.10523.

[Gunfreak]

1 minute ago, BJ55 said:

2025-05-24 09:16:56.084 ERROR   VISUALIZER (Main): OpenXR failure XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
2025-05-24 09:16:56.084 ERROR   VISUALIZER (Main): OpenXR exception: XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
Try with a full repair.

And follow @Kanelbolle suggestions, most important remove the mods.

 

I've tied it all, nothing works. The open xr failures are just because I didn't run the game in VR for the log

This is how the game ran 2 weeks ago 

 

This is how it runs now

Some random script file doesn't do that, especially since that scrip file was there 2 weeks ago when the game ran fine

It's the patch from ED that broke the game. 

[SharpeXB]

@Gunfreak did you own that 13700K prior to the BIOS fix last August? You might be aware of that degradation issue affecting these right?

[Gunfreak]

11 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

@Gunfreak did you own that 13700K prior to the BIOS fix last August? You might be aware of that degradation issue affecting these right?

I did not, but that isn't an issue since nothing else is affected, only DCS, only after the last patch, no other game or application is affected, just DCS

[silverdevil]

@Gunfreak have you tried the renaming the DCS folder within Saved Games to .BAK and then try the sim again?

[Gunfreak]

Just now, silverdevil said:

@Gunfreak have you tried the renaming the DCS folder within Saved Games to .BAK and then try the sim again?

indeed I have, no change. 

 

I'm now reinstalling the whole damn thing, all 1.4TB of it after deleting the install folder. 

That is literally the last thing I can try. 

 

1. I've tried repair,

2. Tried deleting fxo and metashader

3. Tried to rename Savegames/DCS

4. tried to turn of core parking.

5. tried like 20 different settings options

6. tried to reset Nvidia control settings

7. tried flat and VR, both give sub 10fps.

 

 

[SharpeXB]

20 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

I did not, but that isn't an issue since nothing else is affected, only DCS, only after the last patch, no other game or application is affected, just DCS

Good deal. When my 13 crapped out it started to show performance trouble in just a few games like DCS that stress the CPU a lot. 

Edited May 25 by SharpeXB

[Gunfreak]

3 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

Good deal. When my 13 crapped out it started to show performance trouble in just a few games like DCS that stress the CPU a lot. 

I ran 3D mark, and I get the same score as always, granted that is mostly GPU based, but the CPU clock speed is normal, over 5ghz when needed

[Gunfreak]

I get this score when benchmarking the CPU

 

Everything seems in order 

[SharpeXB]

12 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

I ran 3D mark, and I get the same score as always, granted that is mostly GPU based, but the CPU clock speed is normal, over 5ghz when needed

That’s a good sign. Mine revealed a substantial drop in that score. 

[Rotor_Vibes]

I just witnessed my 9800X3D spike to 96.4C in HWinfo64 while flying the OH-58D on the Kola map. It was a training mission against 8 units, and it spiked to 96.4C after only 5 minutes in game. I have a 360MM cooler and I just built this setup a month ago. I feel like something is wrong, I have never seen my temps spike over 82C before.

Edited May 25 by Rotor_Vibes

[Gunfreak]

19 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

That’s a good sign. Mine revealed a substantial drop in that score. 

I'm sure Temetre is right. And i got some kinda odd variation of this problem 

If i could have reverted back to the previous version. It would be easy enough to check.

 

 

Edited May 25 by Gunfreak

[TheBiggerBass]

I hope the DCS team is currently working on a fix. I am concerned to overheat my system running DCS for longer than a few minutes atm.

[schurem]

48 minutes ago, Rotor_Vibes said:

I just witnessed my 9800X3D spike to 96.4C in HWinfo64 while flying the OH-58D on the Kola map. It was a training mission against 8 units, and it spiked to 96.4C after only 5 minutes in game. I have a 360MM cooler and I just built this setup a month ago. I feel like something is wrong, I have never seen my temps spike over 82C before.

You may want to re-do the heat conductor paste and reseat your cooler. That ain't right, no matter how hard your CPU works.

[YoYo]

3 minutes ago, schurem said:

You may want to re-do the heat conductor paste and reseat your cooler. That ain't right, no matter how hard your CPU works.

This is the tip of the year on DCS Forum .

[TOViper]

Guys, I have flown only a few little hours on the newest update, so I have two questions:

1.) Is the performance (fps wise and running in 3D, not the menu) better than before for you?
2.) Have you removed all shaders (fxo's, meta2, NVidia shaders in case you use NVidia card) from your computer BEFORE running the newest DCS version?

I am asking because I had no overheating issues due to fps limiting in VR (45 frames with ASW set to ON).

Edited May 25 by TOViper

[YoYo]

5 minutes ago, TOViper said:

Guys, I have flown only a few little hours on the newest update, so I have two questions:

1.) Is the performance (fps wise and running in 3D, not the menu) better than before for you?
2.) Have you removed all shaders (fxo's, meta2, NVidia shaders in case you use NVidia card) from your computer BEFORE running the newest DCS version?

I am asking because I had no overheating issues due to fps limiting in VR (45 frames with ASW set to ON).

Ad.1 the same (so very good for me)

Ad.2 like always, after the patch.

of course I'm writing about myself

[Lange_666]

1 hour ago, TOViper said:

2.) Have you removed all shaders (fxo's, meta2, NVidia shaders in case you use NVidia card) from your computer BEFORE running the newest DCS version?

Has nothing to do with it. When updating through Skatezilla's updater fxo etc get flushed automatically.
Also, when reverting back to a previous version the problem is gone, even without removing any shaders.

[Gunfreak]

It's obvious that not deleting fox isn't crap out the entire game. There is something deep dark evil here.  Something Cthulhuesk in the DCS world.

[Expertfett]

I just tested my miz editor, at idle, running 80 degrees, with a 95% pump and fan speeds. When launching the miz, it peaks at 100 degrees for about 10 seconds before going down to 75 degrees. This is honestly pretty ridiculous. Running the miz editor is gonna kill my PC (13700K I-7, 64 gigs DDR5,4070TI)

Runs the same in MP and Single player as well. Didnt have any of these issues till that last update

 

Edited May 25 by Expertfett

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

On 5/22/2025 at 5:39 PM, Rudel_chw said:

 

I see about the same ... however, my DCS feels noticeably snappier, including the Mission Editor, load times seem lower and the time to exit to desktop is also lower, so I don't have a problem with this increased load per se, as long as the performance is better than before.

Same, I'm seeing higher temps, as well. I also have a throttle limit set in my bios at about ~95C or so. I'm not too concerned, but I would like it to be looked at for sure.

[The_Nephilim]

well while I do not suffer from this issue I surely look forward to the cause from the ED Devs.. 

[Flia]

I wonder how soon we can expect a hot fix.

[BIGNEWY]

the team are looking at a potential fix currently, but we need to test it to be sure it works, as soon as I have news about a patch I will let you all know. 

thanks 

[draconus]

Can we change the thread title to something like "High CPU usage in main menu/ME after update to 2.9.16.10523"?

CPU temperature is none of DCS concerns. It's on the user to keep their CPUs cool and safe enough even with full CPU usage. And it can't be idle either since it gets hot.

Edited May 26 by draconus

[SandBox757]

Quote

the team are looking at a potential fix currently, but we need to test it to be sure it works, as soon as I have news about a patch I will let you all know. 

thanks 

Thank you ED team. Looking forward to the fix.

 Amd 5950x cooking at 91c while in main  menu.  Was never an issue in past years.  

Edited May 26 by SandBox757