Ver 1.2.3 News

[Paganus]

Can we have a discussion and post our views without it having to devolve into name calling?

[Terrorvogel]

As an offline player, to me, netcode is not that important, but updated content is. If they need to fix the netcode, they can work on that in parallel.

 

+1

 

Regards

Terrorvogel

[Mr_Burns]

Can we have a discussion and post our views without it having to devolve into name calling?

 

 

Ah shut up Anus....see what I did?

 

Was only messing.....:surrender:

 

Must be more accepting of other views....

[badger66]

When they feel its ready they'll release it.

 

They released the whole DCS A-10C when they thought it was ready , look what happened , and we're still waitin over a year later .

[DarkMellie]

Not moaning, not complaining... just eagerly awaiting DCS updates. Heck, I am willing to pay for new stuff, too. :)

 

And no, it's not about MP vs SP patch management. I just believe that netcode shouldn't holdup other content. I bet if it was the other way round, e.g. "we haven't gotten the 3D cockpit for plane XYZ just right, so we're pushing the netcode update back until further notice", people would be up in arms. :)

 

Long story short -- there's nothing wrong with incremental patches.

But that would make sense... a cockpit is just an art asset. Netcode is all about how each players plane interacts with other planes and the environment and that sounds indivisible between SP and MP as both contain the same elements (planes, armour, missiles, etcetera).

 

I just don't think it's as easy as doing separate patches or handing out fixes one thing at a time. Given the fidelity of the DCS World game in general, I'm quite happy for ED to continue focusing on a very high quality standard.

 

 

With that said, I'm really quite worried about modules. If netcode is an issue in a patch, could that possibly become more and more complicated as each module is introduced? I'm getting a little worried that the underlying architecture won't live up to the dream... and that this ongoign 'all on one server' compatibility will become undoable.

 

 

But then I shut up, am thankful for A-10C and stop posting in this thread altogether :D

[badger66]

^ Some people are always moaning - just be patient

 

Just be patient ..... hang on a minute ..... just be patient ..... your having a laugh with that comment .

 

Since Ive bought this game , it has never worked as advertised ..... NEVER ..... and thats over a year ago , and you tell me to "just be patient" !!!

 

Wonder what you would say if you bring your car into a garage for a service , and its a week late ..... another just be pateint is it !!!

 

Just be patient ..... :megalol: ..... Im sick to death of being patient !!!

[RedRain]

Just be patient ..... hang on a minute ..... just be patient ..... your having a laugh with that comment .

 

Since Ive bought this game , it has never worked as advertised ..... NEVER ..... and thats over a year ago , and you tell me to "just be patient" !!!

 

Wonder what you would say if you bring your car into a garage for a service , and its a week late ..... another just be pateint is it !!!

 

Just be patient ..... :megalol: ..... Im sick to death of being patient !!!

 

Roger that 1+

[zaelu]

For me is the same game as Lock On... how long is that? +10 years? I can't remember. But I do understand that it moves slow... is not like a team the size of microsoft is working on it, with same budget. It is annoying, but in the end... that's what it is.

 

Just looking at what microsoft produces and you can go: "pffft" and relax.

 

BTW. I play with just 3 friends online and didn't get "net problems". Just AAA problems but...

[snuffles]

They don't have a host of teams churning titles out. They're working with what they've got, and granted it's a lot better than most can ask for - but for the quality they've managed, I think that's more than acceptable.

[71st_Mastiff]

Maybe you can get a lemon law enacted for software programs that never work as advertised?

[leafer]

So, like automobile, if they can't fix it within a few months then they'll send you a new and still broken game! WooOOOO. :D

[Mr_Burns]

Maybe you can get a lemon law enacted for software programs that never work as advertised?

 

You dont need one, it is this one reason why software and movie piracy has such a big following, the amount of crap churned out (and I dont mean DCS).

 

With XBOX 720 they plan on stopping second hand game sales, well there better be a returns policy for games which just dont deliver.

 

As far as the other comparison to a car, in terms of buying A-10C and going back to the garage you are still waiting, waiting for what??

 

Its more like you bought a tree from the garden centre and because it isnt big enough to build your kids a tree house and it doesnt provide a bumper crop of cider apples every year you complain.

[Mr_Burns]

They released the whole DCS A-10C when they thought it was ready , look what happened , and we're still waitin over a year later .

 

What are you waiting for?

[RedRain]

Despite only flying the shark, I have purchased all content up to P51d beta in support. I will not purchase the remaining or future modules untill I feel significant improvement has been made to the neglected core product. We have patiently waited so so long for significant issues to be addressed, lets hope they get it right soon ?

[Disablez]

Anyway, monday already so ... buggin' time !

 

Hey ED guys, how is it going ?

[NFI_101bird-2]

The best release the finished work, let us waiting too long!

[Wolf Rider]

 

With XBOX 720 they plan on stopping second hand game sales, well there better be a returns policy for games which just dont deliver.

 

 

A bit difficult under Australian Law... returning of any software after the packaging has been opened is unavailable. Only thing to rely on is any return policy contained within the EULA. In that you have to go through the publisher and not the retail outlet, which opens up a huge can of worms.

[Teapot]

Not moaning, not complaining...

 

Long story short -- there's nothing wrong with incremental patches.

 

Actually, be honest ... it's a veiled complaint ;).

Also, you're right, there's nothing wrong with incremental patches, however your idea of what an 'increment' obviously differs from ED's as you outline the detail of how it 'should' be according to you ...

 

You know what I reckon? I reckon creative 'producing' individuals must have a gut-full of this sort of 'free' advice.

[prok]

We paid on time, but we not have anything at all to be quiet.

In fact we do not have a stable support. We have only ruined FC2 multiplayer, because everyone moved to FC3 which is not developing.

Than sell people what they can not use and do not communicate with the public, is it now the embodiment of the project?

I think that these massive projects require higher feedback from the developers, and we need to know what we waiting and why we waiting so long time.

[theghost]

Just be patient ..... hang on a minute ..... just be patient ..... your having a laugh with that comment .

 

Since Ive bought this game , it has never worked as advertised ..... NEVER ..... and thats over a year ago , and you tell me to "just be patient" !!!

 

Wonder what you would say if you bring your car into a garage for a service , and its a week late ..... another just be pateint is it !!!

 

Just be patient ..... :megalol: ..... Im sick to death of being patient !!!

+1 definitely :puke:

[Dejjvid]

Such a bunch of whiners. There is a lot of stable DCS World patches. No one is forcing you to update.

 

And it's hilarious some people are crying about the lack of information when there is a section with only official updates. And the last update is like a week old. You want a daily weather forecast from ED's office aswell? You bought a product, not exclusive insight in ED's office.

You have to cash up a bit more to get that access.

 

Trolls.

[Rusty_M]

Indeed. Claiming that ED have not told us why we are waiting is ridiculous. They've been updating us weekly of late. That's actually pretty good of them IMO.

 

As far as I'm concerned, the game has worked almost perfectly most of the time I've had it. Recent problems with smoke, explosions and MP stability are a shame. But they do appear to be working on these issues.

 

Does anyone actually imagine that their posts will result in a release of more information or that they will speed up the release of a patch? Would the case be different with any other developer in that regard?

[Darkwolf]

Such a bunch of whiners. There is a lot of stable DCS World patches. No one is forcing you to update.

 

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Trolls.

 

 

+1

 

DCS is far from being perfect, but we it's far from being pure crap. I think they is a few with some negative mood. Beside MP and (recents) slowdowns with fragmentation munition, the game works just great and is more stable than a lot of product i've tested from various place. ED keeps adding stuff and do their best fixing issues.

 

They is several games i bought which the developpers simply ditched after release, because the game was unplayable as it and a Patch would not even help. (In the latest sim I tried. : cliffs of dover - Artic circle - SH4.......)

 

Here we got ED fully supporting us, a large team of passionate testers that try to help everyone here without payroll, or teaching us some technics..... :wub:

 

We can be frustrated customer (we paid for something) on the other hand- we cannot accuse ED of not reacting.

 

Honestly i don't regret any cents i gave to the company.

Edited February 11, 2013 by Darkwolf

[MadTommy]

Im shocked at how many people seem to think debugging a major netcode problem is as easy as running spelling and grammar check in MS Office. IT Isnt.

 

Crap, there go my plans to release my multiplayer flight sim later this month. I thought i had it all figured out as well. :cry:

[Boberro]

Indeed. Claiming that ED have not told us why we are waiting is ridiculous. They've been updating us weekly of late.

 

I think it'd be good to implement big notification always when update is being made. User would have to click on it to disappear.

 

Then even biggest n00bs would be informed :D