Syria preview

[Paladin1cd]

I love the map, however I want to know when we will have destructible buildings to, you know, fight the war on. Right now it’s beautiful but this ain’t MS flight sim. I need to have major 8nfatructure to engage for objectives right? The palace, MOD, and TV station aren’t destructible and I’m having a devil of a time making a workaround so far. Could we have an update? Any chance that will be resolved with the expansion?

[Avenger31]

Totally agreed! We need to have them with damage models. 

[Weasel]

Also big thank you from my side, much appreciate the expansion of the Syrian map!

[Gunner309]

Will this be in patch download for current owners? Interested in how this will be delivered.

Gunner

[Ramsay]

34 minutes ago, Gunner309 said:

Will this be in patch download for current owners?

Yes, it'll be in a future DCS patch (in the same way the western/Cyprus addition was).  

Edited February 21, 2022 by Ramsay

[VIXEN413]

Niiiice... 

Anything added at

N35°42'28.4 E39°49'59.3? 

 

for reenactment missions... 

 

[silverdevil]

On 2/19/2022 at 11:21 PM, Fercyful said:

The best map ! Please do a Nam one and Fulda gap zone 

fulda gap zone. lol. ah those were the days.

[HotTom]

East is okay, I guess. But why not south?

Southern Israel (Negev) Sinai, Egypt, Suez Canal. More air battles were fought in those areas than anywhere outside of WWII? Don't you care about historical air battles?

More empty desert does very little for me....

[Japo32]

On 2/22/2022 at 7:12 AM, HotTom said:

East is okay, I guess. But why not south?

Southern Israel (Negev) Sinai, Egypt, Suez Canal. More air battles were fought in those areas than anywhere outside of WWII? Don't you care about historical air battles?

More empty desert does very little for me....

maybe because going south has lots of cities, and make them in map is cost in RAM and work. Desert is easier, and for me also reach Baddag and join with the Persian Gulf would be great. But for sure it would be amaizing an expansion to the south.

[Harlikwin]

Any comment from UGRA about how far East the new map will push. Will it make it out to the NE syrian border?

I.e. If we wanted to could we recreate the famous iranaian H3 strike in the future from the 2nd tank point over turkey near Zakho, will Al-Qa'im be on the map?

 

[Hoirtel]

On 2/23/2022 at 5:01 PM, Harlikwin said:

Any comment from UGRA about how far East the new map will push. Will it make it out to the NE syrian border?

I.e. If we wanted to could we recreate the famous iranaian H3 strike in the future from the 2nd tank point over turkey near Zakho, will Al-Qa'im be on the map?

 

Pretty sure the thread says H3 is included. Further up with the pictures

 

 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Hoirtel

[Gunnar81]

absolutely outstanding update we have coming! I beg of thee ED, please populate thy Persian Gulf map as such! All of Qatar, Kuwait, southeastern Iraq and eastern Oman!

[LucShep]

On 2/18/2022 at 4:00 PM, MAESTR0 said:

Hello pilots!
Today we present to you information about the upcoming update.

The map will be extended eastward 250 km to Deir ez Zor Air Base.

Added Sanliurfa International Airport in Turkey.

Added part of the territory of Iraq with H3, H3 Northwest, H3 Southwest и Ruwayshid.

Added Kharab Ishk helicopter base located on the territory of Lafarge factory.

Added At-Tanf military base on Syrian-Iraqi border.

Tal Siman military base located north of the city of Raqqa was added.

Added abandoned dirt airfield east of Sayqal Air Base.

Ataturk Dam and Şanlıurfa International Airport were added in Turkey.

Added scenes of oil facilities in ir Deir ez-Zor area.

Added a large section of the Euphrates River Valley in the eastern part of the map.

 

Very nice WIP pics, and very welcome updates.

With that said, the best update for the Syria map would be related with better performance and lower VRAM usage - this should be the priority, as it's still a bit problematic if compared to most other maps of a Sim/Game already very demanding on resources.
The objects "pop-in" with bushes and trees in fields near populations is another present issue, breaking immersion.

I'd think most people want "better", not "more". 

Edited March 1, 2022 by LucShep

[VIXEN413]

Hey Urga, hey guys, 

 

Was walking around in Protaras and Capo Greco Cyprus yesterday, first time back since 2-3 years altough I m in Cyprus often for work... 

Went to a viewpoint and noticed that they took away the antennas that used to be there and also the tip of the cape is open to civ public. 

 

Might wanna consider taking the antennas away from there too... 

 

Also, buildings are growing like mushrooms in Limassol... soon will be time to add those big structures lol

 

[Harlikwin]

22 hours ago, Hoirtel said:

Pretty sure the thread says H3 is included. Further up with the pictures

 

 

 

Yeah, but the question remains how much further east the map goes, H3 is pretty far west. Be cool if it went all the way to the E border of syria/iraq. 

[Hoirtel]

48 minutes ago, Harlikwin said:

Yeah, but the question remains how much further east the map goes, H3 is pretty far west. Be cool if it went all the way to the E border of syria/iraq. 

It's pretty far west, in Iraq. Quite far east for Syria... It's seems we are getting almost the whole of Syria. I think that might be enough.

[sirrah]

On 3/1/2022 at 1:56 PM, VIXEN413 said:

Hey Urga, hey guys, 

 

Was walking around in Protaras and Capo Greco Cyprus yesterday, first time back since 2-3 years altough I m in Cyprus often for work... 

Went to a viewpoint and noticed that they took away the antennas that used to be there and also the tip of the cape is open to civ public. 

 

Might wanna consider taking the antennas away from there too... 

 

Also, buildings are growing like mushrooms in Limassol... soon will be time to add those big structures lol

 

Wow, it seems we reached a point where DCS terrain/scenery looks more interesting than the real thing  

Anyways, Ugra already has a massive job at hand for such a smal team, I personally would understand if they did not process changes that happen in real life (if so, you could also argue on what the Beirut harbor should look like in DCS). Not sure on which era/year the Syria map is based, but normally, these kind of real life changes are not processed.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Unfortunately, and fortunately, the maps of DCS are not those in MSFS2K, it is not exactly true to real life, but you know what, it is always great to ask for changes from us customers.

[Harlikwin]

On 3/1/2022 at 12:02 PM, Hoirtel said:

It's pretty far west, in Iraq. Quite far east for Syria... It's seems we are getting almost the whole of Syria. I think that might be enough.

Yeah I mean thats my question, if the actual NE border will be included (plus 20km of Iraq would be nice) for this specific scenario. I mean I'm super impressed with Ugra for all the work they have already done with the original map (i.e. adding Cyprus etc). So if not I won't cry much, but it would be cool even if it was blank out there. 

Edited March 7, 2022 by Harlikwin

[HotTom]

On 2/23/2022 at 9:16 AM, Japo32 said:

maybe because going south has lots of cities, and make them in map is cost in RAM and work. Desert is easier, and for me also reach Baddag and join with the Persian Gulf would be great. But for sure it would be amaizing an expansion to the south.

Not many big cities n the Negev, Sinai or along the Suez. My interest is in creating recreations of historical missions. Not much air war history in the areas where they are expanding.

 

But I'll take what I can get.

[drPhibes]

5 hours ago, HotTom said:

Not many big cities n the Negev, Sinai or along the Suez. 

...and the area between Ein Shemer (which is basically as far south the detailed part if the map currently goes) and the and the Negev desert is famously completely empty, devoid of all signs of population?

[Japo32]

But I believe that to reach those areas, even don't have big cities, they have to follow the coast to the south, were big cities are. At the end the map has to be an square area, unless they do not do those parts, as in Caucasus, they didn't make any details from Crimea

[Silver_Dragon]

6 minutes ago, Japo32 said:

But I believe that to reach those areas, even don't have big cities, they have to follow the coast to the south, were big cities are. At the end the map has to be an square area, unless they do not do those parts, as in Caucasus, they didn't make any details from Crimea

Crimea was first deleted when ED expand the old Lomac map to the Georgian zone by the object density and the pre-EDGE engine technology. After, Crimea has maintain empty when that convert on a "political" issue.

[Alicatt]

Are we going to get Gobekli Tepe on the map? It's about 14NM south of Şanlıurfa International Airport

[fow5ll]

There seems to be no H2 AB?