announced DCS MiG-29A

[Krippz]

Let's get the hype train going:

:thumbup: Edited August 2, 2020 by Krippz

[Kazansky222]

ED when!!!!

 

Also... R27 rework please.....

 

And RBK-500 SPDE... maybe?

[Knock-Knock]

Wednesday October 6th 2027.

[Silver_Dragon]

ED when!!!!

 

Also... R27 rework please.....

 

And RBK-500 SPDE... maybe?

 

ED has talked R-27 rework can coming after AIM-120 on the russian forum. The RBK-500 SPDE and other russian weapons has 3D models into DCS, but not implemented yet.

[FoxAlfa]

Fulcrum

[SovietAce]

While I would love to see full fidelity MiG-29 in DCS, I think this is little bit premature. Its not even confirmed yet, he only said that they are looking at possibility of doing it. About R-27, Chizh wrote recently on Russian forum that ED is now working on new weapons for F-16, and R-27 CFD will be done after it.

[Vatikus]

[BlackPixxel]

 

This touchdown is fake, not enough bouncing!

[Krippz]

 

Awesome video.

[Airhunter]

What exactly would a 29A provide to the sim? The only reason the FC3 one can be so effective is because it is dumbed down and easy to use. The pilot-machine interface and almost complete lack of hotas in the real thing would drive most people insane.

[SovietAce]

What exactly would a 29A provide to the sim? The only reason the FC3 one can be so effective is because it is dumbed down and easy to use. The pilot-machine interface and almost complete lack of hotas in the real thing would drive most people insane.

 

Exactly the same thing like MiG-21, F-5, F-86 etc. Interesting aircraft to fly with and fight with. Dont be a sissy. People like challenges and I dont think that Fulcrum will be tougher to learn than MiG-21 or F-14.

[FoxAlfa]

What exactly would a 29A provide to the sim? The only reason the FC3 one can be so effective is because it is dumbed down and easy to use. The pilot-machine interface and almost complete lack of hotas in the real thing would drive most people insane.

 

Excellent question, apart from being legendary fighter used by 30+ Air forces including NATO and a long service history it will bring its excellent kinematics and Thrust-to-weight and a new flavor to the MFDs brigade.

 

It will increase the fidelity of all "red" weapons and systems laying ground from for all future "Red-Air" projects.

 

Also getting full-fidelity version would benefit also all GCI assisted aircraft (M2000C has guidance system, F-14, MiG-21, EEL and any future ones) since it would bring more GCI infrastructure APIs and implementation.

 

With GCI modes, EWR modes, auto-target prioritization, correct smoke vs RPM modeling, working NAV panel, controllable Fuel Tank Jettions and CM profiles I think it will only get more effective, not less.

 

Although I understand you hotas concerns, I been flying with RL layout for years and I don't find anything lacking and even find it to be a straight forward one.

 

Embrace the challenge and 29 will reward you.

Edited August 2, 2020 by FoxAlfa

[Eldur]

Awesome video.

 

A perfect example however why google cards should be prohibited by law.

 

With GCI modes, EWR modes

 

That's what I'm really looking forward to, since it's very much undermodelled to date. Lots of aircraft would benefit from a proper EWR/GCI system giving actual directions instead of just BRA-calls or bullseye pictures. We've got the 21bis already and the 23MLA coming to profit from that. And the English Electric Lightning as well. Having pure intercept in a combat flight sim without having to fire up an Amiga (Emulator) to run Jet Pilot on will make DCS a lot better. It's not just about BFM and ACM. It's about getting there in the first place.

Edited August 3, 2020 by Eldur

[Gierasimov]

Checked

 

Wednesday October 6th 2027.

 

Perfect, added this to my calendar, plus two weeks.

 

And since it is just over three years, the wait is not long now.

[Kev2go]

What exactly would a 29A provide to the sim? The only reason the FC3 one can be so effective is because it is dumbed down and easy to use. The pilot-machine interface and almost complete lack of hotas in the real thing would drive most people insane.

 

ikr it would be better to ideally add an aircraft that isn't already in FC3, and also one that is actually more comparable capabilities of the F16C or F/A18C etc, but sadly those are the type of Russian aircraft that probably won't get added to being too modern.

Edited August 3, 2020 by Kev2go

[Krippz]

ikr it would be better to ideally add an aircraft that isn't already in FC3, and also one that is actually more comparable capabilities of the F16C or F/A18C etc, but sadly those are the type of Russian aircraft that probably won't get added to being too modern.

 

They can only do what they have approval and docs to do. I think initially they were going to do a F/A-18A and then only later were able to do the Lot 20 that we have now. If we want Red-Air stuff I don't think we can be picky. Have to just accept what we get and buy it so they can do more.

[Kev2go]

They can only do what they have approval and docs to do. I think initially they were going to do a F/A-18A and then only later were able to do the Lot 20 that we have now. If we want Red-Air stuff I don't think we can be picky. Have to just accept what we get and buy it so they can do more.

 

IT was still an F/A18C, just an earlier lot with circa 90s avionics ( no HMD, older MPCD display, earlier ale39 CM suite among the main ones) That being said when the Hornet project was started it was a number of years earlier ( I think like 2013 or 2014 ?.) , just like with the initial F16C project and its WIP screenshots floating about it was still a block 50, but pre CCIP modernization for the 2000s . They basically restarted those respective projects and were able to do more recent variations with more up to date information, probably in part due to popular demand of the playerbase wanting more up to date features.

Edited August 3, 2020 by Kev2go

[FoxAlfa]

 

A good listen about the MiG... Jagdgeschwader 73 Pilots had quite a high kill count against NATO aircraft at the start, until wester tech and tactics cough up.

[p.david]

While I would love to see full fidelity MiG-29 in DCS, I think this is little bit premature. Its not even confirmed yet, he only said that they are looking at possibility of doing it. About R-27, Chizh wrote recently on Russian forum that ED is now working on new weapons for F-16, and R-27 CFD will be done after it.

 

Of course red stuff would come after the poor little 16... enough of this trend, this rework will be ready for the next century

[SovietAce]

Of course red stuff would come after the poor little 16... enough of this trend, this rework will be ready for the next century

Yeah..... :mad:

It almost looks like the imperialists doesn´t have enough toys for now. When was the last time the red side got something?!

I think it was MiG-19 by RAZBAM, but since then the blue side got F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier, AIM-120 CFD rework, several new campaings etc. Its kinda annoying....

[Gierasimov]

Da Comrade!

 

Yeah..... :mad:

It almost looks like the imperialists doesn´t have enough toys for now. When was the last time the red side got something?!

I think it was MiG-19 by RAZBAM, but since then the blue side got F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier, AIM-120 CFD rework, several new campaings etc. Its kinda annoying....

 

Lol, funny. I am imperialist but I share your thoughts...

[rrohde]

I'm all for a full fidelity DCS MiG-29 derivative, but why just the A model? Why not something more up-to-date - or least a series of variants, including the K or SMT versions down the line?

 

My personal fav would be the MiG-35 (or export variant thereof).

[Dudikoff]

I'm all for a full fidelity DCS MiG-29 derivative, but why just the A model? Why not something more up-to-date - or least a series of variants, including the K or SMT versions down the line?

 

My personal fav would be the MiG-35 (or export variant thereof).

 

The 'A' was widely exported and manuals are readily available, plus, it's not in Russian service anymore.

 

I would have preferred the 9.13, but OK. It's the best looking airplane design IMHO, so I'd be very happy if they make a full module out if it, despite its limited avionics.

Edited August 4, 2020 by Dudikoff

[joelsi]

The reason why we are only getting a MiG-29A is that ED simply can't make anything newer. If you skip a bit backwards from the timestamp in the video in the first post this is clearly stated.

[AeriaGloria]

The 'A' was widely exported and manuals are readily available, plus, it's not in Russian service anymore.

 

I would have preferred the 9.13, but OK. It's the best looking airplane design IMHO, so I'd be very happy if they make a full module out if it, despite its limited avionics.

 

I would hope a 9.13 would be included, the cockpit has a few added ECM switches that it right? They already have external model. While it would suck to only get 9.12, I would fly the hell out of it all the same