Dangerzone Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, El buscador de la verdad said: It is these videos exactly that torments me. In my mind I think, "Stop showing me what I can not have. The machine of hype is cruel." Then, when the intentional hype functions you are scolded for wanting to access the thing that was hyped. "Just stop showing us videos of what we can not have. It is better to just be surprised when it comes out one day instead of having us wait in frustration." I'm grateful for the video's. It gives me a chance to see progress, and to lessen the learning curve as soon as it's released. I fully get that there are others will not want to view these video's because of various reasons. The best part is that those that don't want to view the video's don't have to watch them. They've given us all choice, and from my perspective, giving everyone the ability to choose whether or not they watch the video's is far better than taking that choice away from one group to appease another group. As for hype... again that's an individual choice. Edited February 25, 2022 by Dangerzone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cab Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, El buscador de la verdad said: 1. So, the assertion is that the word, "preorder" precludes all possibility for early access and that there is no prior president in other things where those that preordered and pre-paid had early access? 2. A. If the other guy is not claiming that his position is the universally preferable position and that disagreement with it constitutes error, then is it reasonable to imply such statements when one expreses their disagreement to it? B. Would it not be more reasonable to reciprocate the same consideration that the other party himself extended? It’s still in testing. Pre-order customers will get early-access after testing is complete. Expecting ED to release it to customers in an untested state is unreasonable. Edited February 25, 2022 by Cab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El buscador de la verdad Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) hace 1 hora, Cab dijo: It’s still in testing. Pre-order customers will get early-access after testing is complete. Expecting ED to release it to customers in an untested state is unreasonable. Who is to say that I would not be conducting an assessment and reporting bugs during the time that I used it? It one any less capable of rendering a form of testing simply because one is not given special blessing? Are there no people that would enjoy seeing a version of an earlier point in development out of curiosity and interest in game making, etcetera? hace 2 horas, Dangerzone dijo: I'm grateful for the video's. It gives me a chance to see progress, and to lessen the learning curve as soon as it's released. I fully get that there are others will not want to view these video's because of various reasons. The best part is that those that don't want to view the video's don't have to watch them. They've given us all choice, and from my perspective, giving everyone the ability to choose whether or not they watch the video's is far better than taking that choice away from one group to appease another group. As for hype... again that's an individual choice. I advocate allowing people an option, I agree with what you said in regards to this. Edited February 25, 2022 by El buscador de la verdad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 25, 2022 ED Team Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, El buscador de la verdad said: Who is to say that I would not be conducting an assessment and reporting bugs during the time that I used it? It one any less capable of rendering a form of testing simply because one is not given special blessing? Are there no people that would enjoy seeing a version of an earlier point in development out of curiosity and interest in game making, etcetera? I advocate allowing people an option, I agree with what you said in regards to this. Can you please stop now? When it is ready for release you will get it, but repeatedly asking the same thing over and over after we have answered is not going to change anything. 22 4 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 25, 2022 ED Team Share Posted February 25, 2022 Hello all, we will have more news today. Thanks 15 7 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automag928 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 15 hours ago, El buscador de la verdad said: It is these videos exactly that torments me. In my mind I think, "Stop showing me what I can not have. The machine of hype is cruel." Then, when the intentional hype functions you are scolded for wanting to access the thing that was hyped. "Just stop showing us videos of what we can not have. It is better to just be surprised when it comes out one day instead of having us wait in frustration." I'm sorry - i feel like that's a personal decision or choice on your part for you to be harboring those feelings that you can't watch a video and be content with the excitement of the coming product and feel like it's cruel you can't play whats in the video. You've been on the forums for a week or two - if you've followed DCS for any period of time you'll know it'll be here when it is ready. Just enjoy the hype knowing it IS coming... 2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: Hello all, we will have more news today. Thanks straight from newsletter... "imminent release" @BIGNEWY - help us out here!! imminent = "about to happen" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG91 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 vor einer Stunde schrieb automag928: straight from newsletter... "imminent release" @BIGNEWY - help us out here!! imminent = "about to happen" LOL Haha replace imminent with „2 weeks“ and we should be good to go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automag928 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, NG91 said: Haha replace imminent with „2 weeks“ and we should be good to go touché! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 25, 2022 ED Team Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, automag928 said: I'm sorry - i feel like that's a personal decision or choice on your part for you to be harboring those feelings that you can't watch a video and be content with the excitement of the coming product and feel like it's cruel you can't play whats in the video. You've been on the forums for a week or two - if you've followed DCS for any period of time you'll know it'll be here when it is ready. Just enjoy the hype knowing it IS coming... straight from newsletter... "imminent release" @BIGNEWY - help us out here!! imminent = "about to happen" LOL I can only say by the end of quarter 1 2022 You are going to love it! I know it 9 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Force Team Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 When you see the posts and responses from @BIGNEWY, you are hearing it from a very reliable source. I, too, do not like waiting for anticipated releases, but we have until ED says it is ready for Early Access. Yes, we want instant gratification with the promoted future releases, but we still must wait. EA tends to get occasional updates on WIP projects/modules. Long periods of not much happening for the public facing site of ED. Then, at the right time, a whole bunch of new planes/modules/choppers are available at once. MFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod525 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 "imminent" like next week ? Cause this sound like "let's bring the hype to the max" and people are already eager to get their hands on it. Of course you can still argue that Q1 end on March 31, but teasing like this with already several push back would make people not love it so much and you know that lool ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 When the Start up tutorial is released then we know it'll be close... 3 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarhead0331 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, hotrod525 said: "imminent" like next week ? Cause this sound like "let's bring the hype to the max" and people are already eager to get their hands on it. Of course you can still argue that Q1 end on March 31, but teasing like this with already several push back would make people not love it so much and you know that lool ! I totally have to agree on this point, and I mean it respectfully...But I ask a direct question like, "so does this mean February is off the table?" and rather than a direct answer like, "yes" or "no" or "maybe", I get "before end of Q1 2022". Then, once I've had to assume based on the ambiguous response that February is off the table, we get something like "release is imminent..." I am hard pressed to believe that this ambiguity and mixed signalling is anything but purposeful. Why do it? I don't understand it, and on the off chance that it is careless or inadvertent, you should try to do better because you know your passionate fans are going to analyze and parse every single word. This is said with all due respect and understanding that we are technically owed nothing, but why not just be direct and consistent? Edited February 25, 2022 by Jarhead0331 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El buscador de la verdad Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) hace 11 horas, automag928 dijo: I'm sorry - i feel like that's a personal decision or choice on your part for you to be harboring those feelings that you can't watch a video and be content with the excitement of the coming product and feel like it's cruel you can't play whats in the video. You've been on the forums for a week or two - if you've followed DCS for any period of time you'll know it'll be here when it is ready. Just enjoy the hype knowing it IS coming... straight from newsletter... "imminent release" @BIGNEWY - help us out here!! imminent = "about to happen" LOL I will live*. (* With a voice in my head saying that the KA-50 needs FLIR, radar, RWR, AA ordinance, etc and that I will never be whole until I have a comparable helicopter of attack that has these features ) I think that February is totally out of the question and suspect that 31 March, 2022, 23:59 will be the exact time of release. Edited February 26, 2022 by El buscador de la verdad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alleluia Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I hope that february 31st will be the date. 3 vgruk.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallenbach Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 vor 42 Minuten schrieb Alleluia: I hope that february 31st will be the date. That would never be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Regardless which day, the time it drops will be 42:69 Spoiler Alert! Spoiler That's 19:09 on the next day, just in case they'd run into some last minute issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wychmaster Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 We might get a-pa(t)ch-e soon: Sorry for the bad joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) On 2/4/2022 at 9:47 AM, Mr.Scar said: Exactly. Thats why i think the Apache is worth the wait It is. I had to take my holidays before my installations began, so unfortunately, no Apache for me during my time off! I am putting my time into the Harrier and comms for choppers. Edited February 28, 2022 by Rogue Trooper 2 HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. OpenXR, Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC. Vaicom user. Virpil Mongoose base CM3 & Mongoose stick CM2 (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS with apache Grip. MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 It’s March today! 3 VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants -- this is how I fly. We do not fly at treetop height, we fly between trees(TM) YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA My simple missions: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/284071-vr-flight-guy-in-pj-pants-simple-missions/ The contents of DCS World are so overwhelming to me: so many things to try, so many things to revisit. For now, whining about new products being late does not make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 1, 2022 ED Team Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, VFGiPJP said: It’s March today! Everyday a step closer. 10 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfrag Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 6:27 PM, BIGNEWY said: I can only say by the end of quarter 1 Would that be Gregorian or Julian Calendar ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vctpil Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 5 hours ago, VFGiPJP said: It’s March today! Think differently : only 30 days remaining! (maybe less) 2 IAMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12x 3.7 to 4.8Ghz - 32Go DDR4 3600Mhz - GeForce RTX 3080 - Samsung Odyssey G7 QLED - AIMXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Force Team Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Virtual pilots are impatiently waiting for Apache, South Atlantic Map, and anything else that might/will be available. Money is burning a hole in our bank accounts. Only ED can provide us with the solutions we want :). MFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar19681 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) What is all this talk about “eminent release” I haven’t seen any indication that release is “eminent” Wags videos haven’t even completed to the cold start video. Looking at the rate Wags releases videos being about one or two a week now, I’d say we are about 2 to 3 weeks before release of the Apache… Edited March 1, 2022 by oscar19681 3 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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