What is the module Aerges should, in your opinion, develop after or while finishing the Mirage F-1CE, BE, EE, M?

[Silver_Dragon]

1 hour ago, Stratos said:

Now, that would be interesting.

And Canary Islands / south sahara or Peninsula map.

[303_Kermit]

On 7/3/2022 at 9:46 PM, Leviathan667 said:

NB: I did consider the fact that :

Razbam is considering making either a Dagger/Nesher or a Mirage III E but they are not actively developing a Mirage III E module as of this moment.

Heatblur is making a F-4 module. For the air force, they are making the E version. Their intent is to make a Navy and Marine corps variant. Therefore, we should not expect a C version for the air force unlike the one that has seen service in Spain.

1. AFAIK Razbam works over Mirage 5 or one of it's modifications
2. Heatblur works over Phantom family. F-4E is first but not the only one.

Edited July 18, 2023 by 303_Kermit

[SEEADLER 111]

Just need a mirage f1 2.0 with new variats or separate variants; CR, AZ, CT, EQ, CG, EDA etc on the other hand, they could make the Mirage III in collaboration with Razbam, this would be great news for everyone. Whatever Aerges does directly, I've already done it with F4 from belsimtek, now it's headblur that does it. 

[SEEADLER 111]

 

[303_Kermit]

Simple! Mirage III EE /DE of Spanish Air Forces!!!

Edited June 29, 2024 by 303_Kermit

[Mr_sukebe]

We know the Starfighter is in development.

The obvious next Spanish jet would be the Mirage 3.

[irisono]

When this poll started on July 22, I voted for the Mirage III. In the meantime, I've flown the F-104 mod from VSN. If the flight characteristics of this mod are reasonably correct, the Starfighter required precise flying but was super fast and climbed like a rocket. It's exactly the plane for my hunting style - dive down or pitch-up, shoot and pull away. I can understand the love of all pilots who have flown this plane IRL.

[Iron Sights]

F-111

[Peregrino]

It's supposed that a Mirage III, is been "reserved" to be developped for RAZBAM (it seems that is also an easter egg in their F15 module). But as there are (still) problems between RAZBAM and ED, for months, while I still hope the best, i also would like that AERGES, as they are recognized for their work on the F1, could work on the Mirage III. Mirage III should have been, the logical next step after F1. Albeit, I'm sure the F-104 that AERGES is doing, can be a magnificent airplane.

A Mirage IIIE it would be an instant success, I think. So Iconic, involved in so many wars. Pivotal wars. I'll bought a Mirage III made by AERGES, day one. 

Edited July 2, 2024 by Peregrino

[Mig Fulcrum]

Mirage III for sure, absolutely!!

[Andrew8604]

1.  F-4C Phantom II -- I know Heatblur has the F-4E...I'm flying it!  I expect Heatblur will make a Navy F-4B or J or S but will probably never make an F-4C... unless, is there a chance they could team up with Aerges and make the F-4C, which I would buy for $59.99.  Probably not a chance.  But it would be cool!  Heatblur would essentially have the flight model, already.  They would have the radar, which should be essentially the F-4E's radar, minus some functions.  The F-4E's weapons systems, minus some functions.  Probably 90% of the F-4E's flight controls, fuel, hydraulic and electrical systems; and Jester 2 with slight modification.  Maybe Aerges could just do the cockpit instruments modifications from that of the F-4E as well as the exterior 3D model modifications...basically just the F-4C nose section, leading edge flaps instead of the slats, and afterburner cans.  And Aerges could do the F-4C liveries and perform the flight testing.  Aerges and Heatblur could split the proceeds according to a pre-arranged percentage agreement.

2.  F-104C Starfighter -- There is a mod already for this and the G.  But it would be cool to have clickable cockpit, full systems simulation and possibly a better flight model. ...and in-flight refueling that works.  However, they will need to make a G and S version to satisfy all the Starfighter fans.

3. Mirage III -- How much different is the Mirage III from the F1, in terms of fuselage and systems?

The above 3 in any order of priority they'd prefer.  I prefer the F-4C, but I'd purchase all of them!

4. Super Etendard and/or Etendard IV

5. SEPECAT Jaguar

[Mavkruger]

F1 EQ

[KomandorAdam]

    List of historical aircraft used in the past by Spain:

    SPAD S.XIII
    Polikarpow I-15
    Polikarpow I-16
    Grumman FF-1
    Boeing P-26
    Bristol Bulldog
    Hawker Fury
    Dewoitine D.371
    Dewoitine D.500
    Dewoitine D.510
    Fokker D.XXI
    Henschel Hs 123
    Heinkel He 51
    Heinkel He 112
    Fiat CR.32
    Fiat G.50
    Messerschmitt Bf 109 (Hispano Aviacion HA-1109/1112)
    North American F-86 Sabre
    Lockheed F-104 Starfighter
    Dassault Mirage III
    McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II
    Dassault Mirage F1 (C.14)

    Savoia-Marchetti SM.81
    Savoia-Marchetti SM.79
    Heinkel He 111 (CASA 2.111)

    Boeing KC-97 Stratotanker
    Avro 504
    Breguet 19
    Nieuport-Delage 52
    Dornier Do J
    Savoia-Marchetti S-62
    Vickers Vildebeest
    de Havilland DH.60 Moth
    Fokker F.VII
    Hawker Osprey
    de Havilland Dragon Rapide
    Aero A.101
    Blériot S.510
    Polikarpow R-5
    Polikarpov RZ
    Tupolew SB-2
    Fiat BR.20
    Breda Ba.65
    Heinkel He 46
    Dornier Do 17
    Dornier Do 24
    Junkers Ju 52 (CASA 352)
    Dornier Do 27
    Hispano Aviacion HA 100 Triana
    Hispano Aviacion HA 200 Saeta i Super Saeta
    CASA 201 Alcotán
    CASA 202 Halcón
    CASA 207 Azor
    Douglas C-47 Skytrain
    Grumman HU-16 Albatross
    North American Aviation T-6 Texan
    Beechcraft T-34 Mentor
    Bell 47 Sioux
    Douglas DC-8
    Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star
    DHC-4
    Douglas DC-8

Fokker D.XXI and Fiat G.50 fit the Kola map as a great adversary for I-16. Hispano Aviacion HA 200 took part in the Six Day War. Of course, Dassault Mirage III would be useful first. Because ED probably won't work on F-18 A and HB does Typhon. What do you think about my proposal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispano_HA-200

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_D.XXI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.50_Freccia

[kontiuka]

16 hours ago, KomandorAdam said:

    List of historical aircraft used in the past by Spain:

That should keep them busy till the 24th century.

[Slippa]

I’d love a Dragon Rapide. I flew in one in September and loved it.

Harvard T-6 Texan?

Heinkel 111, Me110, Junkers 88, B-25 Mitchell? B-17 or 52 as well?

A prop. Somebody give us more props. 

[KomandorAdam]

2 hours ago, kontiuka said:

That should keep them busy till the 24th century.

It's just a list put there so you can choose something from it. I would vote for these four planes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_III

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispano_HA-200

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_D.XXI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.50_Freccia

All four can be mastered in 10 years. No need to wait until the 24th century.

[jabato]

Mirage IIIEE, por la gloria de mi madre!!!. 

[TLTeo]

Spain also operated first gen Harriers. Which would also be a really really cool module.

[Cab]

On 11/27/2024 at 12:00 PM, jabato said:

Mirage IIIEE, por la gloria de mi madre!!!. 

THIS! SOMEONE needs to develop a Mirage III. My guess is that it would be nearly as profitable as the F-4.

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, Cab said:

THIS! SOMEONE needs to develop a Mirage III. My guess is that it would be nearly as profitable as the F-4.

 

Agree, after the F-104 is done I'd love to have a Mirage III 

[Eole]

Mirage F-1 EQ6 and MF2000/ASTRAC 

[Joe1978]

[303_Kermit]

On 11/26/2024 at 10:29 PM, KomandorAdam said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispano_HA-200

She's too pretty!

[Xeemix]

In addition to a Mirage III I 100% back a AV-8S Matador! 

[Szprynmann]

10 hours ago, Xeemix said:

In addition to a Mirage III I 100% back a AV-8S Matador! 

Or better yet: AV8B+