Beirut Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 I'm enjoying the confusion. "Okay... so the new map replaces an old map and a newer older map but you can still use the newer older map which won't be completely replaced because only the older map will be supplanted by the new map that only partially replaces the newer older map which will still be sold but not required since the new map replaces it and the older map which won't be sold any more, but not really." T'is as clear as the summer sun. 1 Some of the planes, but all of the maps!
cordite Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ThorBrasil said: I believe ED partnered with Ugra to bring the two maps together and expand it. In the future we will find out. The important thing is that I will buy the Normandy 2. What makes you believe that? 1
Jayhawk1971 Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) vor 1 Stunde schrieb ThorBrasil: I believe ED partnered with Ugra to bring the two maps together and expand it. That would be even better, because I'd rather have one map to "rule them all", than several smaller, adjacent ones clogging up valuable SSD space. Also, a lot more potential for larger, longer-range missions (more "natural" bomber escort). Now I'm hoping for Syria 2, which should include Iraq, and maybe overlap somewhat with the upcoming Sinai map. Edited October 9, 2022 by Jayhawk1971 2
Peter5on Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 After Normandy 2 release they should even stop selling Normandy 1 and Channel separately to keep confusion out of new players and splitting the community by having different versions of one map. 1
Rudel_chw Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 why people is assuming that Normandy 2 will include the same area as the Channel map? 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Gunfreak Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, Peter5on said: After Normandy 2 release they should even stop selling Normandy 1 and Channel separately to keep confusion out of new players and splitting the community by having different versions of one map. They can't, stop selling channel map. While it does look like campgians made for Normandy 1 will work on Normandy 2(or so it's claimed) Channel map campaigns will not work on Normandy 2. So you can't just stop selling Channel map thereby rendering several campaigns unplayable. 1 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Beirut Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: why people is assuming that Normandy 2 will include the same area as the Channel map? The situation is not clear so people are guessing. It would be good to see a picture of the new map. 1 Some of the planes, but all of the maps!
Hiob Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: why people is assuming that Normandy 2 will include the same area as the Channel map? Because a square that covers Paris and London will have to cover the area of the channel map. Also in the promo materials there are some pictures of high detailed landmarks of that area. Still an assumption though. A clarification would be welcome. Edited October 9, 2022 by Hiob 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
ThorBrasil Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 8 hours ago, cordite said: What makes you believe that? 51 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: why people is assuming that Normandy 2 will include the same area as the Channel map? 26 minutes ago, Beirut said: The situation is not clear so people are guessing. It would be good to see a picture of the new map. Isn't it the same location? That's why I believe it's the junction of the two maps. 2 |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
Beirut Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, ThorBrasil said: Isn't it the same location? That's why I believe it's the junction of the two maps. Those sure are nice pics. I guess we'll just have to wait for a map pic. Until then, we guess. 1 Some of the planes, but all of the maps!
tempusmurphy Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 looks like less buildings on the Normandy 2 map, if that is the same location, i think there are two radar arrays, but could be wrong
Seaside Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 10:52 PM, Woogey said: For me I would prefer to have a complete merger of the two existing maps, so that I only have the one map after I hit install. NineLine has stated that it’s unclear at this time how the assets will be managed and what the implementation will look like in its completed form. I wish people would read through all the comments before they post questions because a lot of times you’ll find the answer you seek without wasting your energy. -Woog It would be nice to be able to install Normandy 2 and then uninstall the other two to save disk space, without losing anything. Glad to hear about N2 ! 1
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 I recall seeing Dover in Norm2 which covers by both Norm1 and Channel. But in Norm2 the cliff is white where as in Norm1 ain't. I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
Rosebud47 Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 vor 33 Minuten schrieb Seaside: It would be nice to be able to install Normandy 2 and then uninstall the other two to save disk space, without losing anything. Glad to hear about N2 ! Yeah, uninstalling the old normandy map and The Channel to save some disk space, is what I think too to consider. For me it only depends, if going on with a campaign, which is not ported to Normandy 2 and if the performance makes it reasonable for public server to switch to Normandy 2 from Normandy 1 or The Channel map. I mean why the confusion? Practically everything between London and Paris is on the new Normandy 2 map ... AH-64D Apache / F-16C Viper / F1 Mirage / Mi-24 Hind / F-14b Tomcat
MAXsenna Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 I'm as confused as anyone. But watching Reflected's video it seems NM2 is not a replacement for the other two, and to play the campaigns, they need to be installed. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk
Peter5on Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, MAXsenna said: I'm as confused as anyone. But watching Reflected's video it seems NM2 is not a replacement for the other two, and to play the campaigns, they need to be installed. Soon there will be Caucasus 3.0 because current map was updated with DCS 1.5 and Syria 2.0 and Persian Gulf 2.0 with map extensions but you will need to own previous maps for missions and campaigns. Kind of getting VEAO vibes when they been allowed to release Hawk with two different flight models, on the same server for one plane... One person will have mountains with more polygons so if you going to chase someone one person going to crash on mountain side and the other not.
Jester986 Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) I appreciate the pricing model for Normandy 2 and think it’s more than fair Edited October 9, 2022 by Jester986 5
Cowboy10uk Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Rudel_chw said: why people is assuming that Normandy 2 will include the same area as the Channel map? Because with the size stated above And including both London and Paris which we know are included in the Normandy 2.0 map, the area covers looks like this, which clearly covers the area in the channel map as well. Granted it remains to be seen if we are right or not, BUT I can’t see any other reason why ownership of the Channel map would get you a discount on a 3rd partys map otherwise. IF it didn’t make the Channel map redundant there would be no need to award owners of that map a discount. BUT I guess only time will tell. 6 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
SilentSierra Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 58 minutes ago, Cowboy10uk said: Because with the size stated above And including both London and Paris which we know are included in the Normandy 2.0 map, the area covers looks like this, which clearly covers the area in the channel map as well. Granted it remains to be seen if we are right or not, BUT I can’t see any other reason why ownership of the Channel map would get you a discount on a 3rd partys map otherwise. IF it didn’t make the Channel map redundant there would be no need to award owners of that map a discount. BUT I guess only time will tell. Are you sure about this frame? I'm confused. Will be unified map or what? Some ED @BIGNEWY @NineLine can answer, or already answered? Best regards. 1 CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-E MEM: Kingston FURY Renegade 64GB DDR5 5200MHz SSD: Kingstone Fury Renegade NVME PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSD 4TB GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 4090 OC CASE: Cooler Master TD500 Mesh WATER COOLER: Cooler Master Master Liquid ML360 Illusion HT: TrackIR 5 VR: HP Reverb G2 V2 HOTAS: TM HOTAS Warthog RUDDER: TPR Rudder Pedals GRIP: TM F/A-18C GRIP WHEELS: Logitech G27 OS: Win 11 Pro 23H2 SIMS: DCS World, Falcon BMS, IL-2 Sturmovik, MSFS2020, Arma 3, Assetto Corsa.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 10, 2022 Author ED Team Posted October 10, 2022 8 hours ago, SilentSierra said: Are you sure about this frame? I'm confused. Will be unified map or what? Some ED @BIGNEWY @NineLine can answer, or already answered? Best regards. There will be a FAQ posted soon showing more info about the area covered. thanks 2 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Nirvi Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: There will be a FAQ posted soon showing more info about the area covered. thanks List of all airfields too? Serious uglies Discord 4YA - Project Overlord WW2 Server My DCS Videos
SkateZilla Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 22 hours ago, Peter5on said: After Normandy 2 release they should even stop selling Normandy 1 and Channel separately to keep confusion out of new players and splitting the community by having different versions of one map. The e-Shop would likely put them in depreciated status. 1 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Topo Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 I am very happy with the news, and I am grateful to ED and third parties for what has been produced so far. But I also think that the new modules and maps make the vulkan and multicore update more and more necessary. 2
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 10, 2022 Author ED Team Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, SkateZilla said: The e-Shop would likely put them in depreciated status. Not been decided yet, but we will keep you all informed. 2 hours ago, Nirvi said: List of all airfields too? I am sure they will. thanks 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
SkateZilla Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 It helps my poor SSD and Mission Generating, Campaigns and eventually Dynamic Campaigns, 1 Map Covering likely both area's + more, vs 2 maps splitting missions and campaign missions between the 2. 3 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
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