ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 27, 2017 ED Team Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yeah, but would it not be possible to release both stable 1.5.5 with Viggen (which, by Cobra's words worked just fine) and 1.5.6 as open beta with Viggen and all the other updates? I don't know, I said I know nothing about the logistics of said things, so maybe it would just cause more headache for ED to maintain two branches both being updated at the same time (each with different content), so I will probably just shut up and leave as it is. We have been using 3 public branches for a while now, sometimes the beta and release have updated at the same time, and other times not. This time it is going into beta first, they have most likely decided to do this to check no major issues are pushed into the release version. In my opinion it is the best way of doing it and I hope we continue this way. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Thank you guys for the info. :thumbup: New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnumHB Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yes, I know, but then it is probably 1.5.5.something with everything just like the previous 1.5.5 plus the new module, as opposed to 1.5.6 with the new module and a lot of new stuff including some new graphics that mess up cockpit shadowing. That could certainly be argued to be a more sensible release policy, but it wouldn't be a proper ED patch release if it didn't introduce new bugs, now would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotorhead Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 We have been using 3 public branches for a while now, sometimes the beta and release have updated at the same time, and other times not. This time it is going into beta first, they have most likely decided to do this to check no major issues are pushed into the release version. In my opinion it is the best way of doing it and I hope we continue this way. On that account i fully agree. I only find it unfortunate that this beautiful module will be released with an issue, out of control of its developer, which will impair its visual quality. But guess I will have to put up with it. Hopefully, it will get fixed soon! Off to work now, Rotorhead out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmek Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Thanks for the heads-up. It's really appreciated :thumbup: It is an early access release so issues and missing features are normal and to be expected. Especially that Viggen seems to be a really complex module. Knowing which things are not working will save us a fus to have figure it out our selvs. F/A-18, F-16, F-14, M-2000C, A-10C, AV-8B, AJS-37 Viggen, F-5E-3, F-86F, MiG-21bis, MiG-15bis, L-39 Albatros, C-101 Aviojet, P-51D, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, Bf 109 4-K, UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50, NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf... and not enough time to fully enjoy it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDaniel Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Thanks for being proactive, can't wait to hop in the cockpit! McDan out |AMD 7800x3D | 64GB DDR5-3600| GTX 4090 | Virpil Stick, Collectiv, WW MIP, WW Throttle, MFG Crosswind V2 | Windows 11 64-bit | SSD Samsung | 4K LG Oled 48 | Oculus Q3 | Simlab based Cockpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I have a Man cold atm you want me to cough on you? Its bound to get you home from work though as it is a Man Cold the chances of survival are 50/50 at best. I appreciate your sacrifice, but it turns out i have i new intern coming this afternoon so... Crap. Btw, there is actual research supporting what we men always have stated. We actually get sicker than women... Also, giving birth isnt even an illness. So what are they whining about? :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swither Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yes, I know, but then it is probably 1.5.5.something with everything just like the previous 1.5.5 plus the new module, as opposed to 1.5.6 with the new module and a lot of new stuff including some new graphics that mess up cockpit shadowing. Yeah, but would it not be possible to release both stable 1.5.5 with Viggen (which, by Cobra's words worked just fine) and 1.5.6 as open beta with Viggen and all the other updates? I don't know, I said I know nothing about the logistics of said things, so maybe it would just cause more headache for ED to maintain two branches both being updated at the same time (each with different content), so I will probably just shut up and leave as it is. To end on a positive note, I just got a call that if everything goes right, maybe, just maybe, I won't have to work today (gotta love my company's project planning, the situation changes each minute there - just like a real battlefield :)), so if I am lucky, I could be flying the Viggen next morning! Unfortunately, the DCS patch schedule is not up to us. But don't worry about the shadow bug, the cockpit still looks awesome! :pilotfly: /Daniel Heatblur Simulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevelPulse Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Thanks for the heads up Swither [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Director | Team Coordinator ME-163B Project The DCS Modding Hub Discord PC Specs: Intel I7 8700k 4.7Ghz Gigabyte Aorus Ultra Gaming Z370 Motherboard 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000MHz Ram 500GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptJodan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Thanks for the known issue list. I'm a twist stick user so really glad to know about that one (and how to address it) if it hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 On my X-55 the twist works but i can't use an axis for the brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Mac= Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 NOE is almost orgasmic! Unfortunately, one of my close calls with a mountain side... well, somebody peed in the cockpit!:doh: I know there will be bugs. I don't care. I'm flying this lightning bolt now! One question: I read somewhere the landing speed is 220 kph. I get it down to 300 kph with wheels down (and the canard down on its own) and still get up close and personal with a stall. Is there a landing mode I don't know of? That thrust reverser! OMG, that is so awesome! Trim buttons seem either non-functional or extremely weak. (Mapped to my TM HOTAS stick.) And the FPS readout (upper left) is in red. Is that new? I flew a great (for me) landing (Sochi RWY 06) and saved the track. Replaying the track had me landing about a mile west of the runway and thus crashing. DCS 1.5 bug? Finally, guys: thank you so much for this (what's another word for awesome?) aircraft. The Hornet is best at killing things on the ground. Now, if we could just get a GAU-8 in the nose next to the AN/APG-65, a titanium tub around the pilot, and a couple of J-58 engines in the tail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikkeduif Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Mac, I'm having the same issues with the trim on my TM Hotas. If you enable the control surfaces view (right control + enter?) it shows the trim working, but somehow it doesn't always seem to affect the plane. Not sure if this is a bug or expected behavior. > Edit: up / down trim seems to be ok, but left / right doesn't do much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogano00 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Seems like 1.5.6 has done a number on the AJS-37 I wonder if that is going to happen with future patches? You do what you can for as long as you can, and when you finally can't, you do the next best thing. You back up but you don't give up. — Chuck Yeager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renhanxue Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) One question: I read somewhere the landing speed is 220 kph. I get it down to 300 kph with wheels down (and the canard down on its own) and still get up close and personal with a stall. Is there a landing mode I don't know of? Actual speed at touchdown can be anywhere between 215 and 330 km/h depending on aircraft weight, chosen angle of attack, and location of the aircraft center of mass. 215-220km/h is possible but only with an extremely light aircraft and at 15.5° alpha. My advice is to just completely disregard the airspeed indicator once you're established on final. Fly to maintain alpha and touchdown point and the airspeed will get to where it should be on its own. e: if you really want to know the details, refer to this diagram: IAS on the vertical axis, aircraft weight in tons on the horizontal axis. The labels on the right saying "Xtp = 12200 mm" and so on refer to how far from the origin of the aircraft coordinate system the CoM is, on the longitudinal axis. There is a diagram for determining that with various loadouts as well, but well, are you really that interested? Edited January 27, 2017 by renhanxue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Sized Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Also, the aircraft will begin buffeting well above 1G stall speed. If you get dangerously slow there is an audible warning (dynamic depending on aircraft weight thanks to the CK 37) DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atooyi Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Hi well first of all, to be honest your job on this plane is awesome and it became one of favorites in first hours. But the problem is, although it might seem some sort of unusual or even some sort of stupid, as I can't always carry my joystick every where taking my laptops, sometimes I'm forced to fly this beast with keyboard, so the keyboard control test was one the tests I had done, but the problem is, I couldn't move the stick even 1cm backwards with keyboard and after all controls reaction to key commands was weird , and to be honest, comparing to stick reaction to keyboard commands in m2000c and mig21 it was really annoying and it makes the plane almost uncontrollable. that might seem unrealistic but you can't always have your stick on your side, and on the other hand in our flight sim community in our country there is a huge number of simmers who don't have even the simplest stick ( and no that's not the problem with the money in most of the cases, as long as a Viggen module almost costs as the same as a Logitech 3d pro here) thank you I.S.G | DUKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasCS Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I'm getting CTD when I try to start the tape player :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Hi well first of all, to be honest your job on this plane is awesome and it became one of favorites in first hours. But the problem is, although it might seem some sort of unusual or even some sort of stupid, as I can't always carry my joystick every where taking my laptops, sometimes I'm forced to fly this beast with keyboard, so the keyboard control test was one the tests I had done, but the problem is, I couldn't move the stick even 1cm backwards with keyboard and after all controls reaction to key commands was weird , and to be honest, comparing to stick reaction to keyboard commands in m2000c and mig21 it was really annoying and it makes the plane almost uncontrollable. that might seem unrealistic but you can't always have your stick on your side, and on the other hand in our flight sim community in our country there is a huge number of simmers who don't have even the simplest stick ( and no that's not the problem with the money in most of the cases, as long as a Viggen module almost costs as the same as a Logitech 3d pro here) thank you I.S.G | DUKE Hey! No worries-- this is something that we have on our list. :) We'll make sure they work well. Nick Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I missed an english cockpit option and an updated flight manual ... ... however, the use of a female instructor on the training missions is BRILLIANT :) .... kudos for that, was a really nice surprise, it reminded me of the female voice of the Avast Antivirus :D For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atooyi Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Hey! No worries-- this is something that we have on our list. :) We'll make sure they work well. Nick thank you so much, as always, the best. wish you best luck with Viggen and future Tomcat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 there are also major holes in the canopy bow, if you lean forward you can see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobaschi Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 a question about the BK90, i think the multiplayer stuff is not the only problem. Is it possible that the weapon itself has a wrong model state? Shouldn't the sides be closed, till it dispense it's subammunition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Guys, please post bugs and problems in the "Bugs and Problems" subforum (1 thread per issue): https://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=529 Thank you! 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59th_LeFty Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 rudder bug Hi! - There is currently an issue with twist stick rudder controls. Moving the rudder-control (twisting the stick) seems to be working in a relative way instead of a absolute so when you twist it one way you have to twist it the other way to cancel out your command. This issue does not affect all twist joysticks-- and we're trying very hard to find the underlying cause. This is a priority fix for us. As a temporary workaround if your stick is affected, you can use keyboard commands for the rudder. Hi! I am also affected by this, having a secong generation X45 here with MadCatz profile editor SW7.0.27.13 driver 6.0.4.1. Phenomenon is that the yaw axis is working like its a button. Until I press it it steers the rudder (and it does not even recenters) but the wheel is affected very weakly, if at all. The strange part is that if I don't use the axis ever, the buttons work, but sometimes also got bugged. Don't know if this helps or not... Got through the basics in training section, very uniqe aircraft, thanks for building it ;) [sIGPIC]http://www.forum.lockon.ru/signaturepics/sigpic5279_1.gif[/sIGPIC] I could shot down a Kitchen :smartass: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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