Nexus-6 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 An inescapable problem that comes from choosing to make a Phantom is dealing with how prolific it is and simply picking one. There have been F-4s in service since the dawn of the 1960s. We all have our favorite(s), depending on our individual historical interests and country of origin, and a collaboration between developers could be a viable workaround for the challenge of offering a highly requested aircraft and making sure that as many variants as possible are represented. Can't pretend fly as well as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonker Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Rick50 said: I'm just talking out my buttt! Good of you to say. We all are (despite the impression some try to give...), but it's rarely acknowledged. All that can be said with any certainty is that we're all HB fans, and despite the recent announcement of a new flyable we're looking at future releases like a greedy kid holding a Christmas present in one hand whilst reaching for the next box under the tree... Hopefully HB see the compliment 3 Nah, I've only just met 'er...:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionSpider13 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Rick50 said: What if... ED and Heatblur colaborated to bring us two Phantoms? They develop the core code together, share data and SME resources to get a working "phantom". Then they split off, ED finishes theirs as an international "E" gunfighter, and Heatblur finishes theirs as a Navy "J" ?? This what I am hoping happens, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umkhunto Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 13 hours ago, Rick50 said: I'm gonna engage in wild unsubstantiated flight of fancy... with no lift to see... What if... ED and Heatblur colaborated to bring us two Phantoms? They develop the core code together, share data and SME resources to get a working "phantom". Then they split off, ED finishes theirs as an international "E" gunfighter, and Heatblur finishes theirs as a Navy "J" ?? Unlikely. Lot of coordination required, lot of trust, lot of additional complications.... but then, making a Phantom module is complicated due to the subject itself, the variants, the details, and though its an older aircraft it's still a very complex system compared to most of it's contemporaries. Sharing resources might be the only way to get all that done in a reasonable timeline. That said, no, I don't "know" anything. Nor have I seen any such hints. I'm just talking out my buttt! Rather the F-4S than the J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) E or nothing. Would appreciate naval phantoms in additions to the E, but no E = I'd rather no Phantom at all... Edited May 7, 2021 by WinterH Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ustio Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Rick50 said: What if... ED and Heatblur colaborated to bring us two Phantoms? They develop the core code together, share data and SME resources to get a working "phantom". Then they split off, ED finishes theirs as an international "E" gunfighter, and Heatblur finishes theirs as a Navy "J" ?? or better with Trugritt aswell with F early and F ICE with AMRAAM and making the F early as a free offical module for demo purpose and another official FF free module included with DCS. I mean i can only hope but imagine that Edited May 7, 2021 by ustio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiasA Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 What I would really like to see? HB taking over the F-16 and doing the Blk 40 with FLIR and Blk 52 with HTS. Stay tuned, boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 On 5/6/2021 at 10:08 PM, Tonker said: Good of you to say. We all are (despite the impression some try to give...), but it's rarely acknowledged. All that can be said with any certainty is that we're all HB fans, and despite the recent announcement of a new flyable we're looking at future releases like a greedy kid holding a Christmas present in one hand whilst reaching for the next box under the tree... Hopefully HB see the compliment We did and it warmed our hearts. Thank you! 7 1 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmijnen Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Why get hyped for these unannounced modules when you've got this to drool over??? 6 Modules: too many System: I7-7700K, GTX 2080 Super, 64GB DDR4, 500GB SSD, 3TB HDD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostdog688 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 With regards to TARPS functionality, will we be able to take photographs in-game and have copies on our hard drives available? This is a feature that would make photo-recon for virtual flying units a feature for many home-made campaigns, and open up a world of support roles to the DCS community.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) I noticed that the Public Roadmap did not mention the F-14 manual. Is it still going to be developed...to include more instruction on actual flying, operating, and fighting in the Tomcat as well as instructions on using the Jester menu? Edited May 10, 2021 by N0430BM i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, ghostdog688 said: With regards to TARPS functionality, will we be able to take photographs in-game and have copies on our hard drives available? This is a feature that would make photo-recon for virtual flying units a feature for many home-made campaigns, and open up a world of support roles to the DCS community. It's not decided yet. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetguy06 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/7/2021 at 9:51 AM, TobiasA said: ...and Blk 52 with HTS. Stay tuned, boys We've already got the Block 50, and the HTS is coming "soon." A Block 52 would only mean a P&W engine rather than a GE. But a 40/42 would be really nice!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/8/2021 at 2:08 PM, jmijnen said: Why get hyped for these unannounced modules when you've got this to drool over??? Because there is a chance we might see this mystery module before the A6? At least that's the rumor on the grapevine 1 Specs: Win10, i5-13600KF, 32GB DDR4 RAM 3200XMP, 1 TB M2 NVMe SSD, KFA2 RTX3090, VR G2 Headset, Warthog Throttle+Saitek Pedals+MSFFB2 Joystick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiasA Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 vor 4 Stunden schrieb Jetguy06: We've already got the Block 50, and the HTS is coming "soon." A Block 52 would only mean a P&W engine rather than a GE. But a 40/42 would be really nice!! "Soon" is the reason why I would like to see the F-16 from HB... Just daydreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Jaeger Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Nope ..... no electric planes please. Hope Heatblur stays with the honest analog beauties. My favorite? F4 of course 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toni Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 I think what Heatblur needs behind the A-6, is prowling into Electronic Warfare Platforms. Nothing better than a Prowler, E-2C/D Hawkeye and a Growler afterwards. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus-6 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, toni said: I think what Heatblur needs behind the A-6, is prowling into Electronic Warfare Platforms. Nothing better than a Prowler, E-2C/D Hawkeye and a Growler afterwards. I think that's a limitation of DCS itself and not something Heatblur has overlooked. 5 Can't pretend fly as well as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andurula Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Deephack and dotChuckles make a strong case for the secret next gen module being the Gripen that I can't dispute. Deephack Live Stream + DCS News 8th May 2021 - YouTube the specifics start at 24:35. I am ready to spend my money so please put up the pre-purchase page. If in the (highly) unlikely event the Gripen is not in Heatblur's cards, feel free to apply my credit card charge to whatever else Heatblur chooses to do since I already know it will be excellent and I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skysurfer Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Andurula said: Deephack and dotChuckles make a strong case for the secret next gen module being the Gripen that I can't dispute. Deephack Live Stream + DCS News 8th May 2021 - YouTube the specifics start at 24:35. I am ready to spend my money so please put up the pre-purchase page. If in the (highly) unlikely event the Gripen is not in Heatblur's cards, feel free to apply my credit card charge to whatever else Heatblur chooses to do since I already know it will be excellent and I want it. Yeah, that video is pure speculation and total bs. Heatblur have said "next gen aircraft" doesn't mean actual aircraft generstion or era but the next generation of Heatblur development and technology. I'd be very surprised if they in fact did anything as modern as a Gripen, given their experience with and passion for older, iconic aircraft as well as the creation of this 1970's to 80's US Navy ecosystem with the Forrestal class, Tomcat and A-6. Obviously this is still speculation but having the foundation for these types of aircraft already makes more sense to me. Still think one of the planes could be a late naval F-4. It's still too early to even wonder about it as these projects are fairly far away and the current ones still need a lot of work. Edited May 15, 2021 by Skysurfer 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiasA Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) Gripen is classified and will remain so. It is more likely to see the Jaktviggen (AA variant) but even that stuff on that plane is classified. Edited May 16, 2021 by TobiasA typo 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) On 5/15/2021 at 9:34 PM, TobiasA said: Gripen is classified and will remain so. It is more likely to see the Jaktviggen (AA variant) but even that stuff on that plane is classified. IIRC they couldn't do an early Gripen because some of its systems were based on/shared with the JA 37 and said system in particular was classified. It's a bit fuzzy but I think that was the case. In any case I'm hoping they stick to the 80s to mid 90s - which is in keeping with their other stuff (Forrestal is early-to-mid 80s, AJS 37 is mid 90s, and so is the current F-14A & B). Personally I'm hoping for an F-4J/S or an 80s F-111F. Edited June 8, 2021 by Northstar98 8 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiasA Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 vor 19 Minuten schrieb Northstar98: IIRC they couldn't do an early Gripen because some of its systems were based on/shared with the JA 37 and said system in particular was classified. It's a bit fuzzy but I think that was the case. In any case I'm hoping they stick to the 80s/90s - in keeping with their other stuff (Forrestal is post early-to-mid 80s, AJS 37 is mid 90s, and so is the current F-14A & B). Personally I'm hoping for an F-4J/S or an F-111F. Both would be nice. I know tons of people who are waiting for a Gripen and if HB would announce it many of them would pre-order it. But I think that this is somewhat unlikely. The F-4 would be a good choice which would also attract a lot of people. A lot of countries flew it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 As I think of the possibilities besides the F-4, I really think HB throws their hat in the WWII ring...Pacific of course. They have shown great interest and capability in making USN planes as well a carrier. The Corsair is being done by Magnitude 3/Leatherneck and there is talk of ED having great interest in the Hellcat. That still leaves a lot of possibilities. With HB's amazing multicrew work, I think a torpedo or dive bomber would be great...the Avenger being the favorite with HB's connection with Grumman. 1 i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkk01 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Avenger would be great - but aside from the licensing / contact with Grumman, I’m not sure how it would build on HB’s experience to get that “next gen” element...? A Navy Phantom really does look like a good fit... (but failing that a Tornado IDS / GR1, or even a F-111 would do very nicely ) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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