correct as-is Landing gear after update.

[maxTRX]

9 minutes ago, Foka said:

...touchdown speed ~2100 fpm.  (that's better  ) 

Sure it's a legacy bird...   the gear wasn't destroyed the way it happens here.  There's some more info 'out there'
 

 

[Foka]

No, it's Super Hornet. You can see engine intake at the beginning of the video.

[maxTRX]

7 minutes ago, Foka said:

No, it's Super Hornet. You can see engine intake at the beginning of the video.

Yes, misworded and mispuntuated relating to different part of your post... I had one eye on the Razbam thread, lol.  Yeah, I should've deleted my reply immediately  

[maxTRX]

Perhaps a little OT but a little fun fact... In DCS we loose a nose gear door at ~ 330, 340kts.  Here's a clip (timestamped) from an interview with an ex Blues guy 'Feed'  talking about a little incident with the nose gear popping open at 6.7g / M.99  

https://youtu.be/ezHErcQ6880?si=30bwwEFwcJ-6BHFy&t=3328

 

[dogsbody59]

On 3/26/2024 at 2:54 PM, BIGNEWY said:

Got to love the navy  

 

 

Well i land much lighter than that and my left gear breaks and im underweight

[Muchocracker]

1 hour ago, dogsbody59 said:

Well i land much lighter than that and my left gear breaks and im underweight

Looking at a video is not going to tell you anything 

There are 2 things that matter when not making the gear crunch

-Gross weight (under 33 thousand pounds)
-rate of descent (3 degree glideslope)

Both of these have to be within acceptable margins. You can be at 30 thousand pounds and still break the main gears if you slammed it down. Vice for good rate of descent but you're at 45 thousand pounds. 

Edited August 24, 2024 by Muchocracker

[fagulha]

1 hour ago, dogsbody59 said:

Well i land much lighter than that and my left gear breaks and im underweight

Keep your rate of descent below the limit of 750 FPM. And if it is the case, touchdown with the both main landing gears, weight on wheels in just one of the landing gears is prone to damage.

Edited August 24, 2024 by fagulha

[rob10]

4 minutes ago, fagulha said:

And if it is the case, touchdown with the both main landing gears, weight on wheels in just one of the landing gears is prone to damage.

I agree with this.  I've landed overweight with excess descent rate and not had any issues and well within parameters and broke things enough times that to me the biggest factor seems to be being level (no bank) at time of impact.  Which makes sense since if only one wheel is making contact it's going to get a lot more of the force (at least initially).

[Leva80]

Just fly the numbers. You are probably high in the final and compensating with rate of decent.  I think some hear the saying, the hornets landing is a controlled crash, and take it too literally.  Obviously you do not have as much latitude trapping on the boat, but i have landed on airfields 40k without issue flaring.  

[Costas_Ch]

Landing with ~1200fpm 

another one ~1300fpm:

another one:

 

 

[Foka]

How can you tell if it's a legacu Hornet, not Super Hornet?

[Nealius]

11 hours ago, Foka said:

How can you tell if it's a legacu Hornet, not Super Hornet?

Rhinos have an energy caret opposite the AoA bracket. The second video is a Rhino. The other two videos do not have an energy caret, so not likely to be Rhinos, however I can't find any info on what that dot in the FPM is on the first and third videos.

Edited December 18, 2024 by Nealius

[Wroblowaty]

2 hours ago, Nealius said:

However I can't find any info on what that dot in the FPM is on the first and third videos.

HUD as priority display ? - equivalent of a diamond in the corner of DDI when selected using sensor control switch.

[Nealius]

1 hour ago, Wroblowaty said:

HUD as priority display ? - equivalent of a diamond in the corner of DDI when selected using sensor control switch.

Ah that could be it. I admit I've never had a use-case for making the HUD SOI in the Hornet. I wonder why they're doing it during approach?

[Wood]

There is something wrong with the gear. and it seems to happen as soon as wing fold goes up for me.  below max trap weight of 34,000lbs, rate of decent of 700FPM , on AOA and smooth trap. AC rolls back and I raise the hook and move forward 10 to 15ft following the deck crew orders but as soon as I unfold the wings the warning light comes on and that's all she wrote. Something is wrong but unfortunately but cant seem to pin point it as it happens sometimes sporadically. no tracks. 

[rob10]

11 hours ago, Wood said:

There is something wrong with the gear. and it seems to happen as soon as wing fold goes up for me.  below max trap weight of 34,000lbs, rate of decent of 700FPM , on AOA and smooth trap. AC rolls back and I raise the hook and move forward 10 to 15ft following the deck crew orders but as soon as I unfold the wings the warning light comes on and that's all she wrote. Something is wrong but unfortunately but cant seem to pin point it as it happens sometimes sporadically. no tracks. 

Are you wing level when you hit the deck?  IMO that's at least as important as descent rate/weight currently.  If you're banked at all the weight all ends up on one gear and that puts it over the break limit.

[Wood]

10 hours ago, rob10 said:

Are you wing level when you hit the deck?  IMO that's at least as important as descent rate/weight currently.  If you're banked at all the weight all ends up on one gear and that puts it over the break limit.

yup

Just an update. it is a bug or a problem landing on the boat. I've just spent over 45 minutes doing landings over 37000lbs. crabbing at a high rate of descent and spanking it on one between the left and right gear and nothing. 

Edited December 21, 2024 by Wood

[Spankinvicar]

Is there a problem with the F18 gear breaking.?  Ive just returned to the module but when landing (on a runway)  I keep damaging the landing gear at between 130 and 140 knots landing speed.  Used to be able to land a lot harder than this in the past.?  

[Razor18]

It's not about your landing speed. Make sure your descent is 700 feet per minute or less.

[Tholozor]

Also keep your landing gross weight in mind. The maximum field landing weight should be no more than 39,000 pounds.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

 

[Dos]

Gears break too easy.

[Esac_mirmidon]

No if you respect no more than 34K at carrier landing max weight and no more than -700 Vertical speed

[Harley]

Surely in real life, it's not this easy to break the gear. I think it is awfully sensitive, and perhaps the limits are being pushed by us, because of the lack of real training, but I can't imagine that breaking the gear is as easy to do in the real world as it is here.

[Phantom711]

vor 46 Minuten schrieb Harley:

but I can't imagine that breaking the gear is as easy to do in the real world as it is here.

And? How would you handle the whole matter in a sim then? 
I‘ve probably slammed it down with 1000FPM and it was still intact. So there is definitely some tolerance included already.

Of course in real life a damaged landing gear might not look as crooked and funny as in DCS, but this is simply to portray that fact to the player. The point is, that, by the numbers, you have overstressed it. I don‘t know, but something like a hard landing might even automatically be recorded by the system.