ED Team NineLine Posted January 30, 2020 Author ED Team Posted January 30, 2020 Guys the discussion is on released patch notes, shouldn't be much going on in this thread until we have new patch notes to talk about. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
jasonbirder Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Any particular reason the update to stable is lagging so far behind the update to the Open beta this time? Are there genuinely significant bug issues that have been discovered in OB? Or is it just a lack of urgency in pushing it out to stable? Regardless of the fact that in MP (a tiny minority of DCS play) open beta has become the de facto release of choice for users...there is a clue in the name "Beta" ED should remember that "stable" is the official version and should be fully supported...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 30, 2020 ED Team Posted January 30, 2020 Any particular reason the update to stable is lagging so far behind the update to the Open beta this time? Are there genuinely significant bug issues that have been discovered in OB? Or is it just a lack of urgency in pushing it out to stable? Regardless of the fact that in MP (a tiny minority of DCS play) open beta has become the de facto release of choice for users...there is a clue in the name "Beta" ED should remember that "stable" is the official version and should be fully supported... We had the xmas and new year break for the team which was until the the second week in January. We can not update the stable version until we have an update, which is planned first for the open beta in the first half of February, we are preparing 2.5.6. and it can not be rushed. Only then we will start planning for the stable update, so we would ask you to be patient. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
jasonbirder Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Wasn't there an update to Open Beta mid-Jan (15th I think) ?
draconus Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Jason, both versions are official. Both have their reasons to exist. There's been barely two weeks from last OB update. I wouldn't call that much lagging behind. Being on the stable version you shouldn't expect frequent updates and what and when comes to OB should not concern you. If you are not patient enough consider moving to OB. You might have biased view of what is DCS Open Beta - maybe from experience with other software. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
funkyfranky Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 [...], we are preparing 2.5.6. and it can not be rushed. :thumbup: Good decision! A warrior's mission is to foster the success of others. i9-12900K | RTX 4090 | 128 GB Ram 3200 MHz DDR-4 | Quest 3 RAT - On the Range - Rescue Helo - Recovery Tanker - Warehouse - Airboss
jasonbirder Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Being on the stable version you shouldn't expect frequent updates and what and when comes to OB should not concern you. If you are not patient enough consider moving to OB. You might have biased view of what is DCS Open Beta - maybe from experience with other software. The last Open Beta pushed out a number of bug fixes to a DLC Campaign I recently purchased from ED...What is the commercial justification for only making those bug-fixes available to users on Open Beta and not making them available to users on the stable version, who presumably paid exactly the same for the DLC? What's impatient about that? IF, ED consider Open Beta to be the default version of DCS that all users should be on, then why run the two installations in parallel? Why not simply have DCS 2.5xxxxx
imacken Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 The last Open Beta pushed out a number of bug fixes to a DLC Campaign I recently purchased from ED...What is the commercial justification for only making those bug-fixes available to users on Open Beta and not making them available to users on the stable version, who presumably paid exactly the same for the DLC? What's impatient about that? IF, ED consider Open Beta to be the default version of DCS that all users should be on, then why run the two installations in parallel? Why not simply have DCS 2.5xxxxx Seriously? Why don't just run the OB version and save yourself all this grief. In the event of there being some show-stopping bug in it for you, then it is a very simple task to go back to the 'stable' version. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Cunctator Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 You can just switch your stable version to open-beta and back without needing two parallel installs or reinstalling the whole game.
jasonbirder Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Seriously? Why don't just run the OB version and save yourself all this grief. If the word from ED is that OpenBeta is the default user version and receives preferential support/Bugfixes for purchased modules/DLC, whilst Stable is a legacy version that will receive support/Bugfixes on a low-priority basis then thats exactly what i'll do... Is that the case ED?
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 If the word from ED is that OpenBeta is the default user version and receives preferential support/Bugfixes for purchased modules/DLC, whilst Stable is a legacy version that will receive support/Bugfixes on a low-priority basis then thats exactly what i'll do... Is that the case ED? No, that's not the case, but the OB will get updates more often and more frequently and before the Stable, because that's the very purpose of a Beta: To test new versions and make sure they're not causing issues. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
draconus Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 There's no better or default version. There are both to choose from. Examples that actually happen a lot: Case 1: OB can make some AI behaviour that make campaign unplayable. Better keep the stable. Case 2: OB fixes some AI or campaign. Better use OB. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=222881 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Bearskin Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Jasonbirder, ED work on bug fixes, there are thousands of combinations of computer setups used by people that play DCS. So what works on the ED systems might not work on the thousands of different setups of users computers. So the bug fixes and patches get brought out to the open beta, people who have the open beta are willing to share what works and what doesn't, so then ED can go back and remedy what isn't working, then send it to open beta again. When everything gets ironed out, it then gets brought out in the stable version. So you could get 3 or 4 updates to the open beta, to just one update to the stable version So if you want bug free gaming stick to the stable, if you want updates as soon as they are released, get the open beta. You choose what you want, simple as that. Z790, 13700K, RTX4080, 32 gig RAM, Warthog, WarBRD base , Virpil Pedals, Pico 4
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 30, 2020 ED Team Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Hi all Please keep this thread for discussing patch notes. The stable version update cycle is less frequent than open beta, both versions can be used it is up to the user to make that choice. I will close the thread now before we get pages of off topic. As soon as we have news about the next patch we will re-open this thread Next open beta patch is planned for early February thanks Edited January 30, 2020 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
ED Team NineLine Posted February 5, 2020 Author ED Team Posted February 5, 2020 Dear all, While we had planned for a DCS World 2.5.6 Open Beta release this week, but we are still waiting on updating a couple of 3rd party aircraft to the new version, and we want a few more days to make sure new items like the Viper radar-directed gun sight and new pointing modes for the Hornet targeting pod are ready. Thank you for your patience. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
falcon_120 Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Its totally ok! A few more minutes in the oven, is starting to smell good Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk
unknown Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Its totally ok! A few more minutes in the oven, is starting to smell good Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk +1 :thumbup: I don't have time to play DCS anyways, i'm busy watching GlowingAmraam's latest masterpiece again and again! :thumbup: Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings
Shadow KT Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Please take as much time as needed to deliver a good update and don't force it, because of complainers 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days
boedha68 Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Thanks for the info. Apreciate it! :D Newest system: AMD 9800X3d, Kingsting 128 GBDDR5, MSI RTX 5090(ready for buying), Corsair 150 Pro, 3xSamsung 970 Pro, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Pimax Crystal Light (Super is purchased) ASUS 1200 Watt. New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly:
Bagpipe Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Dear all, While we had planned for a DCS World 2.5.6 Open Beta release this week, but we are still waiting on updating a couple of 3rd party aircraft to the new version, and we want a few more days to make sure new items like the Viper radar-directed gun sight and new pointing modes for the Hornet targeting pod are ready. Thank you for your patience. I am beyond angry with ED and am totally let down by the entire DCS franchise and related 3rd parties.....said nobody ever! :megalol: Carry on! :thumbup:
Eldur Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 I can wait another week if necessary. I still have lots of things to try in the last version as I didn't have lots of time for it lately...
WOPR Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Dear all, While we had planned for a DCS World 2.5.6 Open Beta release this week, but we are still waiting on updating a couple of 3rd party aircraft to the new version, and we want a few more days to make sure new items like the Viper radar-directed gun sight and new pointing modes for the Hornet targeting pod are ready. Thank you for your patience. Sanity is appreciated. I'm looking forward to the updates, but would rather have the obvious bugs taken care of. I'm sure this update is more complex than usual.
Al-Azraq Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Dear all, While we had planned for a DCS World 2.5.6 Open Beta release this week, but we are still waiting on updating a couple of 3rd party aircraft to the new version, and we want a few more days to make sure new items like the Viper radar-directed gun sight and new pointing modes for the Hornet targeting pod are ready. Thank you for your patience. No problem! But make sure you don’t forget about the damage model while you are at it :music_whistling: i7 12700KF | MSI Z690 A-PRO | Corsair Vengeance 2x16 gb @ 3200 Mhz | RTX 3070 Ti FE | Acer XB271HU 1440P 144HZ | Virpil T-50 CM throttle | Virpil WarBRD Base + MongoosT-50 CM2 Grip | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR 5 | HP Reverb G2 Bf 109 K-4 | Fw 190 A-8 | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | P-51D | Fw 190 D-9 | P-47D | Mosquito FB VI | F/A 18C | F-14 A/B | F-16C | MiG-15bis | MiG-21bis | M-2000C | A-10C | AJS-37 Viggen | UH-1H | Ka-50 | Mi-24P | C-101 | Flaming Cliffs 3 Persian Gulf | Nevada | Normandy | The Channel | Syria
Steve Gee Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 No problem! But make sure you don’t forget about the damage model while you are at it :music_whistling: I'm thinking we'll see the lighting changes first, damage model after 2.5.6's debut. "These are NOT 1 to 1 replicas of the real aircraft, there are countless compromises made on each of them" - Senior ED Member Modules - Damn near all of them (no Christian Eagle or Yak) System - Ryzen 9 7900X, 64Gig DDR5 RAM, RTX-4090, 3 32" monitors @1440, default settings of High (plus some)
ThorBrasil Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Please take as much time as needed to deliver a good update and don't force it, because of complainers I agree! Better to wait and release when you're ready. So you avoid a lot of headaches and complaints on the forum when you release at the right time. :thumbup: |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
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