Full Fidelity F15C eagle

[falcon_120]

This would be a levely module for me to have. Everytime I fly the FC3 F15C I think how awesome would it be to have a full fidelity fighter, with all its radar modes, datalink, JHMCS, AIM9x... wow it would be so nice.

 

I really hope this is just a case of when rather than if, and I hope you guys also let us know if you'd like it or not. I have other priorities of course (DC, engine, vulkan...), but for sure this would bring a smile to my face.

 

PD: If we have an F15E I would also buy it instantly, but there is something about the semi analog F15C cockpit that i've always loved, so I want them All!!!!

[WildBillKelsoe]

with all its radar modes

 

bearing in mind that the F-15C is still in active service I highly doubt that such classified systems will be modeled in-depth. However, I consider it the Su-25A of the air with higher speeds, so I do share the interest in the analog aspect of the instruments cluster.

 

On that note, I'll give you :thumbup: and +1

[QuiGon]

We're getting the F-15E as a full fidelity module.

[Jazz_44]

We're getting the F-15E as a full fidelity module.

 

We are, but that particular 3rd party developer needs to finish what they released more than 2 years ago and based on their reputation, I don't have a lot of faith that they will really do it justice or complete it in the next 5 years. But that's just my opinion.

 

Also, the E is not a C, totally different aircraft.

[Rudel_chw]

We have already so many american full-fidelity planes in DCS, that I actually would prefer more foreign aircrafts, like the Tornado or the MiG-23.

[QuiGon]

We are, but that particular 3rd party developer needs to finish what they released more than 2 years ago and based on their reputation, I don't have a lot of faith that they will really do it justice or complete it in the next 5 years. But that's just my opinion.

No, it's not just yours. I share that opinion entirely ;)

[Capn kamikaze]

bearing in mind that the F-15C is still in active service I highly doubt that such classified systems will be modeled in-depth....

 

Erm the F/A-18C was still in service with the USN, and is still in service with the USMC, and the F-16 is still in service with the USAF.

 

So "in service" is not really a reason not to, and is not the same thing as lacking access to reliable info, which is a more plausible reason not to make a module.

 

Also, no one said anything about an F-15C in it's current state, you could do an F-15C from 15 or 20 years ago, which is basically the rough timeframe of the F-15C we have, but with a clickable pit and some fixes and more in depth modelling.

 

So there is nothing that really stops a more complete F-15C from being made.

[Harlikwin]

We are, but that particular 3rd party developer needs to finish what they released more than 2 years ago and based on their reputation, I don't have a lot of faith that they will really do it justice or complete it in the next 5 years. But that's just my opinion.

 

Also, the E is not a C, totally different aircraft.

 

Not just your opinion. Plus the E won't come with an AI back seater like it should.

[Knock-Knock]

I just prefer the pure focused 15C over the E, so yea, I really really want one too :)

[Coxy_99]

Not just your opinion. Plus the E won't come with an AI back seater like it should.

 

Of coarse it will why wouldnt it be useless without one, Module wouldnt make money, Therfor pointless to build it.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Of coarse it will

Unless something changed very recently while I wasn't looking, no it won't. And this has been confirmed by RAZBAM. You'll be able to have a human WSO in multiplayer, but not an AI one.

[Harlikwin]

Of coarse it will why wouldnt it be useless without one, Module wouldnt make money, Therfor pointless to build it.

 

Check that mile long thread in the Raz F15E section, last time anyone "official" posted there they said it could all be done from the front seat so a backseat AI like jester wouldn't be done. You will be able to fly with a human MP backseater though. Ultimately I think (and I don't think I'm alone here) its a step backward for the whole sim to the 90's, so I do hope they figure out a way to have a backseat AI WSO. They could possibly license jester for it, OR maybe whatever MP gunner AI solution ED is coming out for the Mi-24 or backseater for their F4E. But thus far "offically" they won't have backseat AI.

[SDsc0rch]

DCS really does need a full-up F-15C

F-15E *is* a totally different aircraft - the drag, extra cockpit, additional restructuring of the fuselage... all make it a significantly different platform - so much so that the AIR FORCE ITSELF named it differently! (that's what we call A CLUE, folks)

would love to see DCS to be completely "full up"

and FC3 (and now MAC) all relegated to its own separate universe

#HardcoreMasterRace

[HiJack]

DCS really does need a full-up F-15C

F-15E *is* a totally different aircraft - the drag, extra cockpit, additional restructuring of the fuselage... all make it a significantly different platform - so much so that the AIR FORCE ITSELF named it differently! (that's what we call A CLUE, folks)

would love to see DCS to be completely "full up"

and FC3 (and now MAC) all relegated to its own separate universe

#HardcoreMasterRace

 

Absolutely agree! We need a full F-15C from the Gulf war era! :thumbup:

[Grodlund]

how awesome would it be to have a full fidelity fighter, with all its radar modes, datalink, JHMCS, AIM9x...

 

Ow.. you mean like the F/A-18C? Or the F-16C?

Sounds to me like you describe exacly what we already have.

And you are getting the F-15E - but you don't "prefer" it... wow :huh:

 

Now talking about what DCS NEEDS, Go to the store and count how many modern Full fidelity jets the red side has.

Yes that's right ZERO

[falcon_120]

Ow.. you mean like the F/A-18C? Or the F-16C?

 

Sounds to me like you describe exacly what we already have.

 

And you are getting the F-15E - but you don't "prefer" it... wow :huh:

 

 

 

Now talking about what DCS NEEDS, Go to the store and count how many modern Full fidelity jets the red side has.

 

Yes that's right ZERO

Why dont you start your wishlist thread then? Are they mutually exclusive?

 

 

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[Jester986]

Oh god.... Just what we need. Another boring gen4 blufor. Please, no. I try to support ED because I have the disposable income and I love this game. I didn't want the F-16 and I bought it any way because I thought the F-4 would be the next jet. I will NOT be buying another gen4 blufor for the foreseeable future.

[jojyrocks]

Lets just imagine they just built the new full fidelity F-15C and...uh...what happens to the other FC3 level F-15C? What about the campaign missions that concerns the current F-15C? Do we replace the FC3 level and separate it to the new Modern air combat standalone title?

 

 

 

I mean, why would we even need the same thing just with clicky switches again? Its the same thing...just with the switches and so on.

 

 

 

I would rather have completely new different jet like an F-4 Phantom or a Red force jet.We don't even have a British jet either. I guess it not the Russian too being secretive, eh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I look forward for the F-15E from RAZBAM...at least its different and seemingly multi-role. Well worth the money.

[falcon_120]

Lets just imagine they just built the new full fidelity F-15C and...uh...what happens to the other FC3 level F-15C? What about the campaign missions that concerns the current F-15C? Do we replace the FC3 level and separate it to the new Modern air combat standalone title?

 

 

 

I mean, why would we even need the same thing just with clicky switches again? Its the same thing...just with the switches and so on.

 

 

 

I would rather have completely new different jet like an F-4 Phantom or a Red force jet.We don't even have a British jet either. I guess it not the Russian too being secretive, eh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I look forward for the F-15E from RAZBAM...at least its different and seemingly multi-role. Well worth the money.

 

As I see a Full fidelity F15C is a new module, meaning that anything that existis for the F15 FC3 will stay as is, in fact it is a totally different product. I do think there are market for both since a lot of people prefers the more "gamey" approach and simplistic system that you find in the FC3 F15.

 

Of course it is possible to convert content but this is in no way different to how some people have remade existing missions and campaign to different birds.

 

I know many people think that the F15C is not the more needed full fidelity module now, and I agree somehow, but for sure I would love to see it at some point in time.

 

Also I think that new modules like the JF17 will somehow make up for the lack of REDFORCE fighters, more so if the chinese stable grows more.

[nessuno0505]

- A F-15C is absolutely doable, and it does not matter it's in active service. The a-10c too is in active service, but we do not have a present day suite but one of 15 or so years ago. The same could be done for the f-15c.

- I do not have faith in f-15e by razbam; it's a too ambitious project for such a little developing team; it's better they try to finish m-2000c and av-8b as they deserve and then focus on easier and quicker modules to develop, it would be better for us and for them.

- I'm not so eager of an f-15e: we already have two fighters/bombers (18 and 16); a f-15c, been focused only on a/a air superiority, would be something different and maybe even quicker to develop (no a/g radar and such).

- FC3 f-15c is a different thing; furthermore MAC is coming and maybe this will mean a more definite separation between full fidelity and il-2-like modules; what a great opportunity for a full fidelity f-15c!

 

- The only drawback is that other modules are already in the pipeline for maybe the next 3 to 5 years (mi-24, ah-1, f-4, p47, me262) and so I do not see a space for a f-15c. Nevertheless, as ED itself always says, "nothing is written in stone" and "all is subject to change", so who knows?

Edited October 29, 2019 by nessuno0505

[Exorcet]

Lets just imagine they just built the new full fidelity F-15C and...uh...what happens to the other FC3 level F-15C? What about the campaign missions that concerns the current F-15C? Do we replace the FC3 level and separate it to the new Modern air combat standalone title?

 

 

 

I mean, why would we even need the same thing just with clicky switches again? Its the same thing...just with the switches and so on.

 

 

Nothing needs to be done with the FC3 F-15. It can remain its own module. The full fidelity F-15C would be a new plane as far as DCS is concerned.

 

 

I don't understand how a true DCS Eagle would be the same as the FC one anyway. Clickable cockpits seem pretty important from the standpoints of functionality and realism. Not many on the forums at least would want new planes lacking clickable cockpits. The FC Eagle also gets hit with penalties for its simplicity. It lacks SuperSearch and fine control over the radar. The MFD can only display a single thing. The radar itself is also really weak with far less detection range than the F-14 and F-18, probably a result of the Eagle being a really old asset in DCS/Lock On. ED is already updating older content such as the Ka-50. A F-15C upgrade makes a lot of sense to me and it's honestly one of the most desirable additions to the game in my opinion.

[ViFF]

if the next fixed wing will be either the F-4E or F-15C or F-15E I will be happy in all cases :)

[Sierra99]

I love reading statements made as "Fact" when nobody except ED knows the real story.

 

I seem to remember some of you are the same people who stated as "FACT" the F-16 would "Never" be ready for early access this year because it took them so long to do the F-18. .

[draconus]

Another dream of 15C? Sign me IN!

 

Not a pound for air to ground :thumbup:

 

Having a Tomcat I can wait longer now. If only they have choosen different aircraft for LOMAC years ago we would have the HiFi Eagle for sure, although I don't know if I would start the journey with LOMAC back then :)

Edited October 29, 2019 by draconus

[falcon_120]

I wouldn't buy it, FC3 version is good enough.

 

Btw, JF-17 is blueforce.

 

Well, it is very plausible addition to the so called "red side" even though pakistan is a NATO allied. I think many MP servers will add it as a Chinese asset.