Neon_20 Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Like the title indicates, blood ! :) When we shoot-down an opponent and kill the other pilot I would expect to see some blood splashed on the canopy. 4
Bobik2002 Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Why? Ryzen 9 5900x | 32GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | 32GB RAM
Neon_20 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Posted July 6, 2020 Because bleeding is real, and humans bleed when get shot. 4
Rudel_chw Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 This is a flight simulator ... gore has no place here and I’m glad that ED has not gone on that route ... there are other games for that. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 6, 2020 ED Team Posted July 6, 2020 Hi This is not something we would include sorry. It would effect our ESRB rating. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Northstar98 Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Mmmmmm... No Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Fri13 Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 I don't see a reason for it, while it would be historically accurate, it would just not be needed. Yes, the illogical ESRP ratings etc exist, nothing can be done for that. Making, you can destroy whole vehicles full of people and it is less than one pilot guts splattered on canopy, because gore. 1 i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
ngreenaway Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 No, dcs is fine without gore [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE
nanucq Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 Well, DCS is already very gore when you fly at low level..... :D i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2666Mhz, GTX 2070 Super, SSD 1To, TrackIR 5, TM16000M HOTAS
ebabil Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 Yeah we are all set, we have everything that we need from weather to proper ATC. only missing feature is blood. FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Rainer_B. Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 Only Blood? Come on. An enemy Soldier without his feet crouching on the battlefield. His intestines behind him. More Fantasy please. (This is sarcasm) No Blood for me. A dark Screen after a crash is enough. Dead is dead. This is not Battlefield Z. Rainer
Kang Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 Just out of curiosity: Apart from making gruesome videos, what is a scenario in which you would even get to see that effect? Even when dogfighting very close you are most likely to be seeing the enemy plane from behind, even in a head-on engagement by the time the smoke clears. Seems easier to just add that particular special effect to your video or screenshot afterwards.
Qiou87 Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 Only Blood? Come on. An enemy Soldier without his feet crouching on the battlefield. His intestines behind him. More Fantasy please. (This is sarcasm) No Blood for me. A dark Screen after a crash is enough. Dead is dead. This is not Battlefield Z. Rainer Watching the latest video from GR (taking off from SC without catapults), I'd add that we *definitely* need collision with ground personnel to go with the gore (based on that video apparently you can drive "through" them for now). Let these yellow jackets fly over board when we hit them because we forgot to brake, let them run and scream while burning because we lit them on fire with our afterburner, like Denetor falling from the top of Minas Tirith. Yes, let's make GTA: Super Carrier. :lol: Or not. I'm sorry but for 99,5% of my kills I am too far to see the cockpit in detail (also, VR, so...). So even if ED spent time and energy for that, I would practically never see it, and I am sure the same would apply for most other players. So why waste their precious time? AMD R7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3200MHz | RTX 4080S 16GB | Varjo Aero | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk3 + STECS + pedals
QuiGon Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 Apart from visual gore effects, pilot wounding and bleeding out is something that should be simulated IMHO. I'm not sure if DCS is maybe already doing that? In all my time of playing DCS I encountered one or two situations that seemed like I was bleeding out: After I recieved some battle damage my vision started to slowly get darker and darker untill I fully blacked out after a 5-10 minutes. It definitely wasn't hypoxia, as I was flying very low. 1 Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Hawkeye_UK Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 Ridiculous thread and a waste of time given there are far higher priorities to get sorted in game that actually matter. Fixing CTD's oh and a working netcode for one. ED have realised this hence their post's about sorting 2500 bugs. If you want to see what gore looks like, join the forces. It's not something to wish, celebrate or glorify in a game. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DCS & BMS F4E | F14B | AV-8B | F15E | F18C | F16C | F5E | F86 | A10C | JF17 | Viggen |M2000 | F1 | L-39 | C101 | Mig15 | Mig21 | Mig29 | SU27 | SU33 | F15C | AH64 | MI8 | Mi24 | Huey | KA50 | Gazelle | CH47 | OH58D | P47 | P51 | BF109 | FW190A/D | Spitfire | Mossie | CA | Persian Gulf | Nevada | Normandy | Channel | Syria | South Atlantic | Sinai | Kola | Afgan | Iraq Liquid Cooled ROG 690 13700K @ 5.9Ghz | RTX3090 FTW Ultra | 64GB DDR4 3600 MHz | 2x2TB SSD m2 Samsung 980/990 | Pimax Crystal/Reverb G2 | MFG Crosswinds | Virpil T50/CM3 | Winwing & Cougar MFD's | Buddyfox UFC | Winwing TOP & CP | Jetseat
sirrah Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 guys, I think the OP gets it by now. Maybe let's stop pounding on him System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM - Realsimulator FSSB-R3 ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH
QuiGon Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 If you want to see what gore looks like, join the forces. It's not something to wish, celebrate or glorify in a game. Most of the stuff that DCS shows isn't something you want to experience IRL, celebrate or glorify. Some things are even banned in many countries (like cluster munitions). Still, they are simulated in DCS, because they are relevant to the simulation of air combat.... as is pilot wounding. Especially in WW2 this was often the cause for the loss of aircraft, where the aircraft was still airworty, but the pilot was not, after getting hit. So I think it is as relevant to simulate pilot wounding as is any other part of the damage model. Does it need to have gory special effects for this? No, definitely not. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Hawkeye_UK Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 Quigon respect your post especially regarding warbirds and agree damage model especially does need review in terms of pilot being mortally wounded during flight from gunshot wounds. Just meant we don't need the proverbial claret arterial spurts and limbs missing, or half a skull hanging open or burned alive that some would seek re gore. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DCS & BMS F4E | F14B | AV-8B | F15E | F18C | F16C | F5E | F86 | A10C | JF17 | Viggen |M2000 | F1 | L-39 | C101 | Mig15 | Mig21 | Mig29 | SU27 | SU33 | F15C | AH64 | MI8 | Mi24 | Huey | KA50 | Gazelle | CH47 | OH58D | P47 | P51 | BF109 | FW190A/D | Spitfire | Mossie | CA | Persian Gulf | Nevada | Normandy | Channel | Syria | South Atlantic | Sinai | Kola | Afgan | Iraq Liquid Cooled ROG 690 13700K @ 5.9Ghz | RTX3090 FTW Ultra | 64GB DDR4 3600 MHz | 2x2TB SSD m2 Samsung 980/990 | Pimax Crystal/Reverb G2 | MFG Crosswinds | Virpil T50/CM3 | Winwing & Cougar MFD's | Buddyfox UFC | Winwing TOP & CP | Jetseat
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
Lange_666 Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 guys, I think the OP gets it by now. Maybe let's stop pounding on him Isn't pounding part of the gore he asked for? For me... no gore, not needed, there's gore enough already in the world. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
notproplayer3 Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Gore? Why not, I'm all for it, especially for helo ops. 1 Full fidelity su27/mig29 ?
Mr_Burns Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 I cant help think the OP is tongue in cheek but I will take something from it that I have frequently wished for and that it the interaction with the 'world'. Buildings are pointless and so are civilians. I ran a small mission today to cluster bomb two BMPs on one bridge and two on another who were 'supposed' to be preventing Civilians from entering the island. Probably 100 civilian vehicles drove through the burning hulks and past the Redfor training camp on the island. I dont need to see burning Civvies or troops hanging out of the BMP melting for immersion, but their current ambivalence to the World around them is pitiful.
Furiz Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 I think focus can be more useful somewhere else than on blood from pilots, troop, civilians... there is more pressing matters.
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