Best way to see new fog work?

[Hotdognz]

With the new fog, what's the best date/time or weather settings to see it at it's best, I have sent some cool screen shots, but would like to set up a mission to experience it for my self.

 

Thanks

 

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[Hiob]

Apart from setting up the fog itself, a great part of DCS looking fabulous is always the time of the day. Make sure that the sun stands deep (early morning or late afternoon)….. nice colours, long shadows…….

[BIGNEWY]

2 hours ago, Hotdognz said:

 

With the new fog, what's the best date/time or weather settings to see it at it's best, I have sent some cool screen shots, but would like to set up a mission to experience it for my self.

 

Thanks

 

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Hi take a look here the video explains how the fog works and what you can do with it. 

 

[bephanten]

3 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi take a look here the video explains how the fog works and what you can do with it. 

 

there is no info on auto fog mode. how to use it?

[BIGNEWY]

Auto fog mode will work for dusk and dawn in most cases. 

 

[razo+r]

23 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Auto fog mode will work for dusk and dawn in most cases. 

 

Any more detailed info on this? What is "most cases"? How does auto exactly work? Do any other weather parameters influence it?

Are there any plans to further improve the fog? Like localised settings, for example in trigger zones? Same goes for the duststorm. Rather useless on high elevation maps as the effect spawns at the bottom...

[Hotdognz]

Thanks ill watch the video tomorrow.

But some more info would be good or a at least a manual, I mean you guys made it so you know what works, I tried dawn on Caucus, auto mode and fog was not that obvious

[Esac_mirmidon]

Try manual mode, dusk or dawn, Broken 2 preset at 6 thousand.

Fog visibility 5000-10.000. 

Fog Height 1500-3000

Edited December 5, 2024 by Esac_mirmidon

[Nealius]

The video states that dew point affects the auto fog, however we have no method of setting the mission's dew point.

[gnomechild]

Also really curious if there's any way to set the area for fog with the weather system in some way? Right now every fog effect is applied to the entire map, and the only way I've found to get fog in the mountains ends up with several thousand feet of fog at sea level. Hoping there's something more I'm missing because it's pretty hard to use anywhere without making the map look very odd

[Archangel44]

The new Fog is really awesome. I set it with a mission date in April, broken clouds up top, 15 minutes before sunrise and had the fog disappear 30 minutes after sunrise.

Set it to 1500 ft thickness with a visibility of 5000 feet. Ramat David Airbase has not looked any better.

Thanks ED,

About the rest of the Afganny map. Hmm...? 

[twistking]

5 hours ago, Nealius said:

The video states that dew point affects the auto fog, however we have no method of setting the mission's dew point.

@BIGNEWY I would also love some clarification on the auto-fog. I assume it's developed with future dynamic weather in mind?!

[DmitriKozlowsky]

I don't really see any difference. Except a perf FPS hit of 18-20 FPS when ON. With Volume Light ON or OFF. Otherwise its same uniform fog. Not the turbulent shader in the screen caps. SoI am not sure what I need to have turned ON/OFF.

[Gunfreak]

Here's fog set to lift in the morning. 

I've set it from quite heavy to medium with 3 minute change. To simulate as the sun finally starts burn away the fog.

 

 

[Dangerzone]

I'm really wrapped with the visuals I'm getting from the new fog physics. From taking off and landing on the carrier in thick conditions to a more medium fog on the countryside at dawn with the sun low on the horizon. Flying through Dubai at night with the fog layer as well, and buildings sticking out the top is real cool too. In VR - this is so much more immersive. 

Nice work ED!

For now, I'm using manual mode until I can get more clarification/information on how the auto will work better and what parameters to put into it. 

The two things I'd love to see added are:

An option to have the fog patchy, (so it's not a blanket through the whole map at the same AMSL altitude), and greater option with the base and height.

Less restriction on the fog height / more options with base and height - so it can be done for inland/mountain areas. I'd love to lower the fog to less than 300ft too. (I've seen thick fog fog numerous times where I'm driving my car and the fog is literally at the height of my headlights at night. You can't see the road more than 100m ahead, but you can see clear in the distance above the layer. Spooky and ultra cool to wittness. I've also seen fog where the base is off the ground by a few meters - so there's a clear patch. I know technically this could be called 'cloud' - so it would be nice to be able to put in fog/cloud layers with no restriction on the base altitude). 

I'd be keen to know if these are already available in the 'automatic' mode as opposed to manual.

[Nealius]

Adding another timelapse demo. The fog will automatically transition without requiring the user to micromanage fog keys to recreate the effect of fog lifting. My parameters in this video:

Mission start: visibility 6000, height thickness 1000.
After 10 minutes: visibility max, height thickness 0
After 20 minutes: visibility 6000, height thickness 1000.

The fog will automatically transition to reach programmed visibility and height at the specified time.

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by Nealius

[Hotdognz]

Thanks guys for all your help, starting to understand how it works now, how do you make the fog height higher ??.

Visibility I understand
Thickness would be how thick it is

But height of the fog ??, mine seems to pop out to clear at about 10M high

Also the fog seems localised to my start AF and doesn't seem to stretch down or up the coast when I use F2 view and zoom out.

Edited December 6, 2024 by Hotdognz

[Nealius]

I was using "height" interchangeably with "thickness" though I see now how that could lead to confusion. As far as I know there's no way to set actual height.

[Dangerzone]

I thought height was the thickness of the fog (how thick it is from sea level to the top). 

[cptmrcalm]

Had a bit of fun with this myself. 

Glad with the results ED. keep it up!

 

 

[MAXsenna]

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/290975-dml-mission-creation-toolbox-no-lua-required/page/82/#findComment-5564397

[ivo]

On 06/12/2024 at 02:12, Nealius said:

Aggiunta di un'altra demo timelapse. La nebbia passerà automaticamente senza richiedere all'utente di microgestire le chiavi della nebbia per ricreare l'effetto di sollevamento della nebbia. I miei parametri in questo video:

Inizio missione: visibilità 6000, spessore altezza  1000.
Dopo 10 minuti: visibilità max, spessore altezza  0.
Dopo 20 minuti: visibilità 6000, spessore altezza  1000.

La nebbia passerà automaticamente alla visibilità e all'altezza programmate all'ora specificata.

 

Hi could you post the mission for download?

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

I thought this video was helpful in explaining that the fog thickness was measured from MSL (not GL) and applied throughout the map. So we're hoping there can be future options for fog thickness based on GL and at selected locations. 

 

[Hotdognz]

So I have it working thanks to everyones help here, using manual mode as Auto doesn't seem to do anything at all.

One thing I noticed is wind does not seem to affect it at all.

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[GWdope]

Can ED please start updating the manual with these new features? Looked and new fog isn't in there. For a study level sim ED seems to neglect the manual to a baffling degree.