DCS Helicopters - ED Internally developed rotary wing aircraft

[flybull]

I hope I'm not reading this incorrectly, but in Wag's open letter, this comment was made:

 

"Right behind the Hornet, we have other modern, combat fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft ready for development within the Eagle Dynamics internal studio"

The other helicopters we know about (Mi24 and BO-105) are done by EXTERNAL partners.

 

This means that there is something else on the horizon for Helicopter Lovers!

 

What are you wishing for? What is the speculation?

 

There are mutterings of one of the developers from Gazelle being involved in an OH-58D. This is not conformed for DCS and is also an external partner.

 

Razbam has hinted of MH-53, again not ED internal studio.

 

I personally wish for the Dragon - i.e. AH-64. Any version. A large volume of technical data pertaining to AH-64D Block II systems etc is available....but heck it take an AH-64A.

 

My second choice would be AH-1W

 

Discuss:

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[hansangb]

Apache, or Blackhawk. That would be soooo awesome. Or Cobra since Belsimtek seemed to have abandoned it or postponed it indefinitely.

[Bearfoot]

Yes! This was the most exciting bit of news for me as well!

 

Frankly, ANY helo will be welcome. Those jet jockeys do not realize it, but helos is where DCS both shines and offers something totally unique.

 

Given that, ANY Western heavy attack would probably make the most sense in the "fleshing out the universe" perspective, to provide a very different perspective on the attack helo mission as offerered by the KA-50 and the (very welcome!) future Mi-24. Given the circumstances, that's either the AH-64x or AH-1x. I'll take two of either in a heartbeat. Also, from a sales perspective, I suspect the AH-64 will rival the F-18C in demand! I've said it before --- charge me $100 and I would still buy two if that will make it happen!

 

But, failing that, the UH-60 would also be really, really, nice, as would the Chinook, the CH-53, etc. etc.

[Zimmerdylan]

MH-6 Little bird or Blackhawk would be great!!

[flybull]

Hey barefoot - agree in full

 

Problem is: Flight Simulation is a niche within the simulation community with driving sims and other genres being more popular. Within the niche flight sim community - DCS is a further niche - with P3D/XP having a much larger user base. Finally - within DCSW, we, the helicopter lovers are a smaller community yet again.

 

This reality would put a developer in a difficult situation. They exist, after all, to make a profit. The resources to make a DCS level Longbow would be massive. I really do think that a machine like that would convert fixed wing pilots in droves to the helo world - but I'm sure ED have to weigh up where it is best to put their resources - to maximise return.

 

Having said that, if it is a labour of love - and a developer WANTS a particular bird, profits not being the primary consideration - the world is the limit!

 

If There was a DCS Apache - I reckon it would sell as much as a hornet. The only dudes that don't love helos, in RL or DCS - are those that haven't tried it!

 

I really hope the OH-58 being modelled makes it to DCS. DCS is THE best platform for rotary simulation.

 

A vanilla UH-60A/L 'hawk would be my preference over a later glass cockpit variant - id take ANY western military helicopter in a heartbeat.

 

TO ED and all the developers producing/considering DCSW rotary assets: THANK YOU!!

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[Apache600]

I'm partial to the Apache .... must be the name or something I really like :P

[the_soupdragon]

Chinook. Or maybe an Osprey :)

 

SD

[BravoYankee4]

Why not satisfy both plane and helo pilots - give us the Osprey :)

Some weeks ago I had the opportunity to see them flying very low over my house at several occasions during the big Aurora 17 excersize in Sweden. Mighty birds indeed.

[Aries]

Kiowa Warrior would be awsuuuum!!!

 

So much time in good ol' Gunship 2000 years spent in that helo...

 

:joystick:

[EagleEye]

Yeah, I´m curious as well what choppers to come from ED.

 

So much time in good ol' Gunship 2000 years spent in that helo...

:joystick:

I guess we wont have that commander who is greating you after returning to duty though. Also that neat loadout screen we will not get. Oh, how I miss the old days with these nice backgrounds graphics...

[Temp89]

I wouldn't be surprised if they were referring to Belsimtek's Hind as "internally developed" even if they are separate organisations.

[ebabil]

uh-60 or any variants of it

ch-47

ah-64

ah-1

 

yummy

[upupandaway]

 

There are mutterings of one of the developers from Gazelle being involved in an OH-58D. This is not conformed for DCS and is also an external partner.

 

 

The OH-58 was first mentioned b Wags in early 2013 and then again more recently (sometime in 2017) as „in development“. But perhaps you already knew that when referring to the mutterings ;)

I personally would like that very much

[Oubaas]

Bah! We don't need all that Army stuff.

 

What we really need is an SH-3G and an SH-60B so that we can fly plane guard during flight ops with the Tomcat and Hornet. And if RAZBAM comes through with the A-6 and/or A-7, we'll need them even more so.

 

You should throw in the HH-46A/CH-46D as well, just for good measure.

 

:D

[Kang]

Well, a transport-capable helicopter would have the advantage of possibly getting some love to those pesky issues about internal cargo and troop embarkment, I guess.

But whatever it is, I'm sure it'll be very interesting once we get the proper reveal.

[Buzzles]

Clearly they should do a Bell 222A :)

[Destroyer37]

IMO a blackhawk would be a fantastic addition to DCS. Heres to hoping.

[rrohde]

Hoping for the AH-64 as well.

 

+1 :thumbup:

 

(and the F-16 as the modern jet)

[Fri13]

I hope I'm not reading this incorrectly, but in Wag's open letter, this comment was made:

 

"Right behind the Hornet, we have other modern, combat fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft ready for development within the Eagle Dynamics internal studio"

The other helicopters we know about (Mi24 and BO-105) are done by EXTERNAL partners.

 

This means that there is something else on the horizon for Helicopter Lovers!

 

What are you wishing for? What is the speculation?

 

That was as well my thoughts that what could it be. I just hope it ain't a another trainer or utility helicopter.

 

As the Mi-24 is coming out by third party, the one interesting idea is that could it be that ED acquired the AH-1W project, same way as they did with WW2 project?

 

If the helicopter would be a new one. I would take a AH-64A if it would be a AH-64 family.

Then if it should be a western helicopter, I would definitely go for a Eurocopter Tiger or even more fun a Agusta A129 Mangusta.

 

But as well if going for Soviets I would like to see one of the three:

 

KA-27PL for Anti-Submarine warfare missions. Let the Mi-8 to be SAR helicopter.

KA-52 "Alligator", well this is so logical continuum of the Kamov partnership to offer something special!

Mi-28N, it would be like the AH-64D. But that is so pure fantasy...

 

There are mutterings of one of the developers from Gazelle being involved in an OH-58D. This is not conformed for DCS and is also an external partner.

 

Yes, the OH-58D was oddly presented in some previous videos in "parate" position... Could very well be that scout/recon helicopter.

 

Razbam has hinted of MH-53, again not ED internal studio.

 

Nice equivalence to Mi-8, but I find it just "duh" kind personally.

 

I personally wish for the Dragon - i.e. AH-64. Any version. A large volume of technical data pertaining to AH-64D Block II systems etc is available....but heck it take an AH-64A.

 

My second choice would be AH-1W

 

Discuss:

 

It ain't enough that there is technical data available, developer needs to get the license too for the model design, brand and so on.

 

But of course one can dream a AH-64D just like Mi-28N (or KA-52 "Alligator") but those really are new ones.

[MurderOne]

Clearly there is only one choice. Blue Thunder. Just kidding, but I'd dig just about anything they put out. AH-1 of any variety would be spectacular.

[Looney]

The little bird is ruled out because of license issues and the manufacturer not wanting to provide a license.

 

The Apache is mostly for the same reason not in development. There is something in the forum about these two statements.

 

That leaves the Cobra and perhaps some transport helicopters.

 

Razbam most likely will do a CH-53 as per their bug bunny cover-up picture. Belsimtek will work on the Hind, most likely together with ED.

 

Interesting times ahead for RW pilots.

[SnorreSelmer]

All rotor-wing new is interesting and great rotor-wing news!

[Rogue Trooper]

Hopefully it will be an ED developed Helicopter.

My first choice is the AH-64 but any heavy weight attack chopper would be great.

 

 

However a OH/AH-6 would be totally welcome.

[Quadg]

I would like a lynx.

 

fast and nimble

 

like a UH-1 on steroids.

[joey45]

I would like a lynx.

 

fast and nimble

 

like a UH-1 on steroids.

 

Plus it can have TOW missiles as well as guns and rockets.