ricktoberfest Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 For the majority of users (Two thirds) its NO patch in nearly six months...and NOT one (let alone two in sight) I won't complain tho' - as has been pointed out to me on many, many occasions - expecting bug fixes to allow use of Aircraft modules and DLC campaigns costing literally hundreds of $s is an unreasonable demand...and highlighting it on the forums in the hope that Ed might listen nothing bar, simple "attention seeking"... Luckily for me I didn't spend all that money in the expectation of being able to play DCS now...I merely put the money down in the hope that it'll be usable at some unspecified point in the future... Thanks for not complaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 well it certainly seem to have knocked the FPS drop when you look at the tower on the super carrier on the head. Nicely done Shadows are still somewhat problematic though and still seem to cause a big hit. SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Ignore my previous post, I was running with my test settings with Shadows off. Sad to say, that this patch has made no difference to my frame times for the Supercarrier. Still horrendous in VR. Edited May 27, 2020 by imacken Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Pedro= Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 We are getting there I suppose :) Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X | i7 9700K@5.0GHz | Asus TUF OC RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR4@3200MHz | HP Reverb G2 | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Croswinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 DCS 2.5.6.49798 Open Beta DCS World Increased performance in missions with Supercarrier and player's F/A-18 and statics on the deck. Restored support of CPUs without SSE4.1 (like AMD pre-FX processors). Thanks all. Downloaded and working fine on AMD 1100T, cheers! :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunx Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Ignore my previous post, I was running with my test settings with Shadows off. Sad to say, that this patch has made no difference to my frame times for the Supercarrier. Still horrendous in VR. Awwww, for a few moments there, your post gave me hope of enabling shadows only to be dashed by my addiction to the F5 key :) ROG Z690 Hero ● i9-12900K 5.5GHz ● Giggy RTX 3090 OC ● 32GB 4800MHz ● Firecuda M.2s ● Reverb G2 ● Win11Pro //// A10CII ● AH64D ● AJS37 ● AV8BNA ● C101 ● CEII ● F16C ● F5EII ● F86F ● FA18C ● FC3 ● I16 ● KA50 ● M2000C ● MI8 ● P47D ● SA342 ● SPIT ● UH1H ● Y52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Have to say that I’m impressed. ED appear to have possibly reinvigorated the process for both release and spot fixes. Thumbs up to the not just the guys doing the low level graft, but also the chaps above for making the difficult decision to put a pause into the normal release schedule to facilitate the improvement. Fingers crossed for a continuation System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haptor Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 DCS 2.5.6.49798 Open Beta DCS World Increased performance in missions with Supercarrier and player's F/A-18 and statics on the deck. Restored support of CPUs without SSE4.1 (like AMD pre-FX processors). Thanks all. Thank you ED for fixing this. Now some friends are able to join again:thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 DCS 2.5.6.49798 Open Beta DCS World Increased performance in missions with Supercarrier and player's F/A-18 and statics on the deck. @Bignewey can you be more specific about what you fixed, under what conditions were you expecting performance improvements? SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) DCS 2.5.6.49798 Open Beta DCS World Increased performance in missions with Supercarrier and player's F/A-18 and statics on the deck. Really amazing change :thumbup: .. where I was previously getting under 30 fps and had me starting to save $$$ to upgrade my PC, now the Hornet on the SuperCarrier is giving me 2.5 - 3 times more .. I was even able to increase my graphics setting, going from AA 2x to AA 4x .. couldnt be happier: :smartass: ... I'm using nVidia's fps counter, on the top left corner :thumbup: So, thank you ED ... this patch has saved me a lot of $$$ :) Best regards, Eduardo Edit: My mistake .. I have the same mission with the Stennis and with the Roosevelt, by mistake I was using the Stennis one ... sorry guys. There is an improvement, but nowhere as dramatic. will delete the pics so as to not induce others to an error. Edited May 27, 2020 by Rudel_chw For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorBrasil Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Really amazing change :thumbup: .. where I was previously gettung under 30 fps and had me starting to save $$$ to upgrade my PC, now the Hornet on the SuperCarrier is giving me 2.5 - 3 times more .. I was even able to increase my graphics setting, going from AA 2x to AA 4x .. couldnt be happier: :smartass: https://i.imgur.com/RtqfRAD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VZpeiKy.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EFqGPJH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XbtOM38.jpg I'm using nVidia's fps counter, on the top left corner :thumbup: So, thank you ED ... this patch has saved me a lot of $$$ :) Best regards, Eduardo I didn't get any better here. The shadows in the cockpit are dropping my FPS. When I put the Flat only shadows into the cockpit, the FPS gain is very high. Over 30 FPS to be exact. You Rudel_chw has a loss of FPS in your prints from 103 FPS to 74 FPS. 29 FPS. Something is wrong with the cockpit shadows and the Super Carrier. Edited May 27, 2020 by ThorBrasil |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I don't want to ruin the party, but i've no gain on fps since the release of the carrier in DCS supercarrier. Must i try different settings? Thanks, :D Oops...yeah forgot to mention i am on VR! New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthek Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 No changes in fps on my end, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunSlingerAUS Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 The various incorrect claims of performance increases in this thread alone show how hard it is to test one of the main areas people waste time on testing - performance. We’ve been waiting 10+ years for an integrated benchmark. Surely the minimal development time required to build one is worth the thousands of hours DCS flyers waste doing inconsistent benchmarking attempts? Intel 11900K/NVIDIA RTX 3090/32GB DDR4 3666/Z590 Asus Maximus motherboard/2TB Samsung EVO Pro/55" LG C9 120Hz @ 4K/Windows 10/Jotunheim Schiit external headphone amp/Virpil HOTAS + MFG Crosswind pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 The various incorrect claims of performance increases in this thread alone show how hard it is to test one of the main areas people waste time on testing - performance. We’ve been waiting 10+ years for an integrated benchmark. Surely the minimal development time required to build one is worth the thousands of hours DCS flyers waste doing inconsistent benchmarking attempts? Well put , and certainly a valid observation . Our reports , both to ED and to other forum members , suffer much from this lack . 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 The various incorrect claims of performance increases in this thread alone show how hard it is to test one of the main areas people waste time on testing - performance. We’ve been waiting 10+ years for an integrated benchmark. Surely the minimal development time required to build one is worth the thousands of hours DCS flyers waste doing inconsistent benchmarking attempts? Have to agree, both users and ED would really benefit from a build in benchmark. 99% of the performance result threads and posts on this forum are utterly useless (I have to admit, I also shared results. but thinking about it, it really doesn't help anyone or mean anything..) System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjokkel Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) Performance in VR dipped after the patch for me. I had good performance in the standard F14 missions where you take off from the deck. Performance in Persian Gulf was worse that in the Caucasus map on deck in open sea but i didn't have any stutters and it was very playable. Now with the patch only the F14 caucasus mission is playable but if i look over my left shoulder to the bridge i get huge stutters. It does seem to be an issue with cockpit shadows. I'll dig in to it a bit more hopefully this evening. F18 looked a lot smoother on deck. I agree on the need for a built in benchmark. Edited May 28, 2020 by Sjokkel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Absolutely agree. We need a benchmark, a standard to go by. The universal unit standards of 'fine' and 'here' dont really cut it. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Pedro= Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Absolutely agree. We need a benchmark, a standard to go by. The universal unit standards of 'fine' and 'here' dont really cut it. 100% ^THIS^ ;) Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X | i7 9700K@5.0GHz | Asus TUF OC RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR4@3200MHz | HP Reverb G2 | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Croswinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandT Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 The various incorrect claims of performance increases in this thread alone show how hard it is to test one of the main areas people waste time on testing - performance. We’ve been waiting 10+ years for an integrated benchmark. Surely the minimal development time required to build one is worth the thousands of hours DCS flyers waste doing inconsistent benchmarking attempts? +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle_01 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Although not a specific unit of measurement. I can say that since the spercarrier patch, I haven't played my stable install yet, since my open beta install performance is almost at par with my stable installation. Intel Core i7 7700, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Intel 660P PCIe NVMe, Zotac 2070 Super Amp, Oculus Rift S A-10C, FA-18C, F-14B, FC3, F-5E, F-86, AV8B, M-2000, Combined Arms, AJS37, F-16C, C-101, MiG-15Bis, MiG-19P, MiG-21Bis, L-39, P-51D, Spitfire LFMkIX, Bf-109, Fw-190 Dora, Fw-190 Anton, P-47D, I-16, SA342, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Ka-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 28, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted May 28, 2020 stable version updated, thank you all for your patience https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/changelog/stable/2.5.6.49798/ Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Wait for it... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle_01 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Holy **** that must have been a lot of work. Thank you ED!!! But since the performance of open beta is ok now. I think I'll stick to playing my open beta install.. Why? Because lighting and clear water. Intel Core i7 7700, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Intel 660P PCIe NVMe, Zotac 2070 Super Amp, Oculus Rift S A-10C, FA-18C, F-14B, FC3, F-5E, F-86, AV8B, M-2000, Combined Arms, AJS37, F-16C, C-101, MiG-15Bis, MiG-19P, MiG-21Bis, L-39, P-51D, Spitfire LFMkIX, Bf-109, Fw-190 Dora, Fw-190 Anton, P-47D, I-16, SA342, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Ka-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) stable version updated, thank you all for your patience https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/changelog/stable/2.5.6.49798/ Sweet! At long last, I can land my Jeff on the super carrier just like the iranian airforce does off the coast of Normandy in real life! That's one heck of a changelog notes... Really shows how much you guys are up to over 5 months! Thank you! Edited May 28, 2020 by ngreenaway [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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