ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 7, 2022 ED Team Posted October 7, 2022 DCS Newsletter discussion 7th October 2022 - Normandy 2 | MB-339 Development report 10 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Hiob Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Wow, can’t say how thrilled I am about the new Normandy map! And kudos for the fair pricing! 9 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
toutenglisse Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 yeah big thx Ugra Media for what looks like a hudge Normandy upgrade. I love their maps. 4
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Dang, one more on the Day-1 purchase list... Quote DCS: Normandy 2 will be available as a complete map for $59.99 USD. If you have either DCS: Normandy 1944 or DCS: The Channel maps, you can purchase Normandy 2 for $14.99 USD. If you own both, you can purchase DCS: Normandy 2 for only $9.99 USD. I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
Gunfreak Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 I hope the discount applies to steam too? Also since we got pricing, does that mean it's close? i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Sorry there is no pricing for MB-339A/PAN, well, not that I care. The Newsletter says they will be available SoonTM. 1 I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
Rudel_chw Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 I had no intention of purchasing additional maps and instead concentrate on new aircrafts, but the very attractive upgrade price is impossible to ignore does anyone knows if the current Normandy DlC Campaigns will be updated to be compatible with the new Normandy? 2 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
gnomechild Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: DCS Newsletter discussion 7th October 2022 - Normandy 2 | MB-339 Development report Sorry if this is obvious, but it wasn't clear to me from the newsletter. Is Normandy 2 going to be backwards compatible with the Channel and Normandy 1? Would someone getting into DCS: WW2 still need to purchase the channel to play missions/campaigns and multiplayer servers that are currently using the Channel map? Or will buying Normandy 2 give you access to everything? 3
Hayduke Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Putting in the work and applying new tech to perfect an aging, unfinished DCS asset, all at a fair price? Outstanding! This is the way. I hope this works out for ED and Ugra. Then maybe we can see this same method applied to other aging assets (NTTR, PG, some of the older planes that need some love). 3
Raviar Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) I have Both Maps, and 10USD is nothing to discuss about BUT I believe it is not fair ! the business model is not what I expected, its not about money or price tag its about strategy! are we going to see Syria2, PG2, Nevada2, Sinai2, Pen2 ... F-5_2, Hornet2 ?! thats the question Edited October 7, 2022 by Raviar 1
Gunfreak Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hayduke said: Putting in the work and applying new tech to perfect an aging, unfinished DCS asset, all at a fair price? Outstanding! This is the way. I hope this works out for ED and Ugra. Then maybe we can see this same method applied to other aging assets (NTTR, PG, some of the older planes that need some love). Sorry had to. 2 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Hiob Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Raviar said: I have Both Maps, and 10USD is nothing to discuss about BUT I believe it is not fair ! the business model is not what I expected, its not about money or price tag its about strategy! are we going to see Syria2, PG2, Nevada2, Sinai2, Pen2 ... ?! thats the question If they improve the size and quality like this for just 10 bucks? I‘m all for it. Or do you want to play on 10 year old graphics forever? And nobody gets their legacy maps removed if I‘m not mistaken? 7 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
Andrei Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Interesting, so we get a merge of Channel Map into Normandy and also extension or Normandy. Not bad, that makes full sense to do. Pricing policy seems reasonable as well. Good. 5 AMD R7 5800X3D | Aorus B550 Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 4080 | VKB MGC Pro Gunfighter Mk III + STECS + VKB T-Rudder Mk4 | Pimax Crystal FC3 | A-10C II | Ка-50 | P-51 | UH-1 | Ми-8 | F-86F | МиГ-21 | FW-190 | МиГ-15 | Л-39 | Bf 109 | M-2000C | F-5 | Spitfire | AJS-37 | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Як-52 | F-14 | F-16 | Ми-24 | AH-64 | F-15E | F-4 | CH-47 NTTR | Normandy | Gulf | Syria | Supercarrier | Afghanistan | Kola
Hiob Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, gnomechild said: Sorry if this is obvious, but it wasn't clear to me from the newsletter. Is Normandy 2 going to be backwards compatible with the Channel and Normandy 1? Would someone getting into DCS: WW2 still need to purchase the channel to play missions/campaigns and multiplayer servers that are currently using the Channel map? Or will buying Normandy 2 give you access to everything? If I understood correctly, those are and will be three different standalone maps. The newest just covers the area that the old ones did and therefore renders them somewhat obsolete. 2 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Given the price of other modules and maps, another 10 USD is not a big issue, of course, we can always wait for a price drop...or one can skip it altogether... Can't help but to say "I have spoken". Allow me to focus my mind on the MB-339A 1 I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
twistking Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) Wow, reading the Normandy 2 announcement was a rolelrcoaster of emotions. First i was mildly dissapointed, because i thought the update was free, but then reading about the size of the project, a price tag seemed fair again. Then i noticed that both legacy normandy and the channel map will be kinda obsolete with the new map, but seeing the relatively fair upgrade path it seemed ok again. Then there is the aspect of community fragmentation with legacy map vs old, but the new map tech seems to solve that as well. So all in all, good news i think. It however surely begs the question what drove the decision to do the channel map in the first place. I think ED must get better at plannign those things through and delivering on them! That said, i'm looking forward to the new Normandy. Ps: Since the map would allow for many historic scenarios, it would be good to have the option to disable (or hide) the allied landing grounds in France. They are very visible and will always remind the player that the map's date is post invasion. Edited October 7, 2022 by twistking 7 My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Rosebud47 Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Coolest thing with Normandy 2 is, that both maps merged together as one. Hopefully performance will not be degraded too much. Cleaning and refuelling my warbirds now ... 2 AH-64D Apache / F-16C Viper / F1 Mirage / Mi-24 Hind / F-14b Tomcat
Gunfreak Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rosebud47 said: Coolest thing with Normandy 2 is, that both maps merged together as one. Hopefully performance will not be degraded too much. Cleaning and refuelling my warbirds now ... Remember to use sandpaper to get that few extra Miles per hours. 1 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Lace Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 I wonder if ED will now bundle the Channel map into DCS core, like Caucasus and Marianas, as a kind of free taster WWII map? Seems unlikely anyone will buy it once Normandy 2 is released for sale. 5 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, 2x2TB NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, Virpil collective, Cougar throttle, Viper ICP & MFDs, pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Quest 3S. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111.
MadKreator Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 And I just bought The Channel on the last sale oops LOL Intel i7 13700k, ASUS rog strix z790A, 64gigs G.Skill Trident DDR5 @6400Mhz, Nvidia RTX 4080FE, 4TB, 2x 2TB, 1TB Samsung NVME, 1TB Samsung SSD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair Titan 360 X AIO cooler, Lian Li LanCool 2, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate, VKB Custom STECS , MFG Crosswinds, Moza FFB, Virpil Collective, Track IR5, 48” LG UltraGear OLED & HP 24” touchscreen for Helios,49” Samsung Ultrawide, Streamdeck XL, Corsair Virtuoso RGB Headphones
Andy1966 Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Man, I am so happy to hear this. I thought the Normandy expansion to London and Paris would be cool, Wow to have a merged Channel/ Normandy map Plus an expansion is a dream come true. Man the surprises just keep coming! 3 We are Virtual Pilots, a growing International Squad of pilots, we fly Allies in WWII and Red Force in Korea and Modern combat. We are recruiting like minded people of all Nationalities and skill levels. http://virtual-pilots.com/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ThorBrasil Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 I have the Channel map and I will buy the Normandy update. Thank you for including channel map users. 2 |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
MAXsenna Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Thank you Eagle Dynamics! This is great news.Now I really wonder what this means for the future of other maps.Will all new announced maps use the same updated technology?What's the difference in tech used by the Syria map compared to the PG map?Will the Sinai map use the same technology as the Syria map? And what about the teased, yet to be announced Afghanistan map?Is DCS moving quicker to a world map than previous anticipated?Let the speculations soar! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk
Eldur Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 At first I was like: Who wants to pay for another Normandy map? Then I was like: Ugra: announces Normandy 2 ED's The Channel: Am I a joke to you? Then I got to the part explaining the pricing, coming to the conclusion that this new map ofc is based on the old one, but also somehow must include The Channel given that owning it reduces the price tag and simply asking the question: Why would they want to make that complete area that we do already have again from scratch? And with those owner's discounts, I'm absolutely all in for the upgrade! This will be a great addition. And the new tech that delivers stuff you don't own in lower quality seems to be the first step towards a grand scale world map, I can perfectly see the exact same thing happen with the Gulf, Syriam Caucasus and the upcoming Sinai as well as the already announced Afghanistan maps and probably an Iraq map as well. And, hopefully, one day... the Crimea, where it all started with Flanker to LOMAC+FC (for purely nostalgic reasons; I've been wanting to see the Crimea back since BS1). 4
Bremspropeller Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Not gonna buy two maps for the second time. That MB-339, tho! So ein Feuerball, JUNGE!
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