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Noone had ever said anything about Linux support as also support for vulcan does not make DCS able to run on Linux.

 

[Edit] On negative side of vulcan. Think for a while about an effort which had been done by ED to re-unify the code streams. It took years untill 2.5 arrived. With Vulcan they'll open the same patch again - 2 code streams, splitting the dev effort on supporting current DX11 and creating a new Vulcan engine. The fact is also that there is no guarantee that we will actually benefit from Vulcan. As an example look on some other titles that are both DX11 and DX12 and provide zero (if not negative) performance boost when switching to DX12.

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Noone had ever said anything about Linux support as also support for vulcan does not make DCS able to run on Linux.

 

[Edit] On negative side of vulcan. Think for a while about an effort which had been done by ED to re-unify the code streams. It took years untill 2.5 arrived. With Vulcan they'll open the same patch again - 2 code streams, splitting the dev effort on supporting current DX11 and creating a new Vulcan engine. The fact is also that there is no guarantee that we will actually benefit from Vulcan. As an example look on some other titles that are both DX11 and DX12 and provide zero (if not negative) performance boost when switching to DX12.

 

Relevant point.

However, they could take the route of a transition to only Vulkan, with a potential goal to drop DX11 support completely, just as they've done with non-Deferred shading.

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Noone had ever said anything about Linux support

 

 

 

 

Sure but a big step closer. And DCS on Linux could also be very interesting for dedic servers in the future.

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Thank you for announcing the dates, ED :thumbup:.

No more speculation and hoping each Wednesday and Friday.

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I’m not sure why, but this new launch trailer video really got me chocked up with emotion… had to fight against the misty eye. Not sure why, but I would imagine it has everything to do with fallback of everything I’ve always wanted in a military flight-sim. I remember the first days in the early 80’s flying on my IBM hoping that someday this technology would be available to vividly give us the impression of realism. Meeting Matt at E3 in 2001 with Lomac… I was confident we would get where we are today. Plus, that great music track didn’t help!

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The next 2 Wednesdays are going be probably the most anticipated ever in the DCS series. Thanks ED for giving us dates to look forward to and I hope the community can understand that they could shift a tad bit also due to unforeseen issues.

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I hope the community can understand that they could shift a tad bit also due to unforeseen issues.
Yup. But I'm sure ED will work very hard to meet those dates.
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Yup. But I'm sure ED will work very hard to meet those dates.

 

Most definitely! I am sure Matt will express some urgency to the staff if it came down to it also. He hates being burned by missed dates :) , thus the reason we have not had any until now.

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Most definitely! I am sure Matt will express some urgency to the staff if it came down to it also. He hates being burned by missed dates :) , thus the reason we have not had any until now.

 

I am pretty sure, if they were confident to lay out a couple of dates this close, they are very confident they will meet those dates. I would even bet on it.

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All I hope is to get SA-2 and SA-5 in 30 may patch too...

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Posted (edited)

Not to get off topic but:

Noone had ever said anything about Linux support as also support for vulcan does not make DCS able to run on Linux.

 

Linux Support is not mentioned, DCS is still compiled on Visual Studio and using Microsoft Visual C Runtimes.

 

[Edit] On negative side of vulcan. Think for a while about an effort which had been done by ED to re-unify the code streams. It took years untill 2.5 arrived. With Vulcan they'll open the same patch again - 2 code streams, splitting the dev effort on supporting current DX11 and creating a new Vulcan engine. The fact is also that there is no guarantee that we will actually benefit from Vulcan. As an example look on some other titles that are both DX11 and DX12 and provide zero (if not negative) performance boost when switching to DX12.

 

Because they took their DX11_0 Code, Ported to DX12_0 and didnt Re-Write the code to use DX12_0 Features, Instead it's a DX_11 Engine Running on DX_12 Libraries.

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Because they took their DX11_0 Code, Ported to DX12_0 and didnt Re-Write the code to use DX12_0 Features, Instead it's a DX_11 Engine Running on DX_12 Libraries.

I wouldn't assume that in case of AAA titles like Bf1.

 

To get back on topic. Just watched the latest hornet video on ED channel... 5 times in a row. I'm speechless.... Amazing work :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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Posted

Link that video here please?

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I wouldn't assume that in case of AAA titles like Bf1.

 

To get back on topic. Just watched the latest hornet video on ED channel... 5 times in a row. I'm speechless.... Amazing work :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

:thumbup:

 

Yeah me too, can't seem to get enough of that video.

What a great job they did with that!

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Posted (edited)
Not to get off topic but:

 

 

Linux Support is not mentioned, DCS is still compiled on Visual Studio and using Microsoft Visual C Runtimes.

 

Because they took their DX11_0 Code, Ported to DX12_0 and didnt Re-Write the code to use DX12_0 Features, Instead it's a DX_11 Engine Running on DX_12 Libraries.

 

 

Listen I want Vulkan so I can continue to use Win 7. I don't want my operating system to be

a virus tyvm.

 

Anything using DX12 is going to FORCE me to use Win 10. Vulkan ftw. Running it on Doom 2016 no prob.

 

On a more fun note the latest newsletter caused me to BUY BUY BUY F-18 + Persian Gulf.

I tried to pull my hand away from the confirm order button but I just couldn't gah !

 

Just too damn good to wait anymore. DCS is amazing !!! Can't believe my dream sim has

finally arrived. Ya there's gonna be bugs but I know we're on the home stretch. Yee Haww !!

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Posted (edited)

Just read on todays newsletter that ED and Belsimtek have now officially combined forces under the Eagle Dynamics banner. :thumbup:

 

A BIG congrats to both teams on this. It's great to see both combine forces and it proves without any doubt that ED have a great future and I for one can't wait to see how it unfolds.

 

It's going to be a wonderful ride...…….well done and congratulations to all involved. :beer:

 

PS...….Thanks for fixing my beloved Spitfire in the latest update, that tail wheel bug was causing chaos to my gut in VR! :)

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Totally agree. ED + Belsimtek is a match made in simulation heaven.

 

Too bad that these development times mean that we all will be quite a bit older before we see those modules released... sigh.

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Posted (edited)

Weekend News

 

Not sure if its a typo, But as quoted:

 

Normandy 1944 Map for DCS World Update

Working with the Ugra Media, the developer or the Normandy map, we will be releasing a free update to this map in June. This map is the ideal battleground for our warbirds that focuses on northern France in the summer on 1944.

 

As i paid for the map im in no doubt i should get free updates :megalol:

 

Edit: Nice clip wing tho.

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IF they didn't say free then there will be peeps that will ask if it's free...

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IF they didn't say free then there will be peeps that will ask if it's free...

 

It was not necessary. Who has ever asked if he has to pay for an update to his software.

Am I special?

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