deep Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 The size of the download and the amount of free disk space will be different for everyone. The Updater knows both of these things before it starts the actual process, so a message to advise you of this and give you a chance to move things around before it starts I think would be helpful to many people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Again, the point is that they're requiring additional space on top of the ever-expanding permanent storage requirements. Which, BTW, could be optimized, 4K normal and specular maps don't provide any benefit over 2K, for example. Spreading the updates is a way to make the big ones less painful for users on a limited space budget. As the sim grows in size, the number of those will increase as well. The updater could be much smarter about downloading and installing things than it currently is. Instead of message, it could stagger downloads, or even pull them to a secondary location on another drive, unpack them there and only install to the main drive. Steam does some of that, although it's not all that smart about it, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prccowboy Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Dragon1-1 said: Again, the point is that they're requiring additional space on top of the ever-expanding permanent storage requirements. I'm not sure how the Steam version works, but for the standalone you can easily put the temporary update files on another HDD so that it doesn't require additional space on the SSD where your DCS is installed. (I used to do that when I had a smaller SSD dedicated to DCS and couldn't fit the temporary files from the update on it), see: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, Dragon1-1 said: Again, the point is that they're requiring additional space on top of the ever-expanding permanent storage requirements. Which, BTW, could be optimized, 4K normal and specular maps don't provide any benefit over 2K, for example. Spreading the updates is a way to make the big ones less painful for users on a limited space budget. As the sim grows in size, the number of those will increase as well. The updater could be much smarter about downloading and installing things than it currently is. Instead of message, it could stagger downloads, or even pull them to a secondary location on another drive, unpack them there and only install to the main drive. Steam does some of that, although it's not all that smart about it, either. Just stop typing, please. What you're saying sounds selfish and ridiculous. So let's all get back on topic. 6 1 i9 9900k @5.1GHz NZXT Kraken |Asus ROG Strix Z390 E-Gaming | Samsung NVMe m.2 970 Evo 1TB | LPX 64GB DDR4 3200MHz EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | Reverb G1 | HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Flight Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippis Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, pimp said: Just stop typing, please. What you're saying sounds selfish and ridiculous. So let's all get back on topic. Intelligent and optimised asset and update handling is neither selfish nor ridiculous. It's just good business for everyone involved. 1 ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Lurker said: @speed-of-heat Hey Speed, did you notice any changes in the performance of the game in general, and in Syria in particular in VR compared to the previous few patches? I honestly have been working to hard to play much, and i have been playing rather than testing when i can get to the pc. i havent noticed any degradation on my game settings SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) I will say, there appears to be LESS horizontal jaggy-ness in the distant clouds where they meet the horizon and against hill tops.(standard and high presets). Ultra look great, but come at a performance hit of 4-6 ms in frametime. VR specifically Edited June 17, 2021 by Sr. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Tippis said: Intelligent and optimised asset and update handling is neither selfish nor ridiculous. It's just good business for everyone involved. My point exactly. Right now, I'm not in the market for any new maps or even modules. Even if I free up another 60GB on my M.2 (likely by kicking X-plane to another drive), Marianas map will eat it and I'll be back to square one. If they went and optimized their textures, we'd see a performance gain and significant storage space benefits. Of course, those who think anyone without a 2TB SSD and a 3090 is a peon unworthy of the devs' attention will think it's ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I guess it comes down to this: a) this thread is about discussing the latest patch notes b) a new thread would make sense to discuss the finer details of the release policy c) showing the problem and proposing solutions would go a lot further than accusing and demanding 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoN Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Great update . Hind is so nice . 1 Gigabyte - X570 UD ~ Ryzen - 5600X @ 4.7 - Pulse - RX-6800 - XPG 32:GB @ 3200 - VKB - Gunfighter 4 - STECs - Throttle - Crosswinds Rudders - Trackir 5 . I'm a dot . Pico Nero 3 link VR . @ 4k Win 11 Pro 64Bit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) Stable Version Currently version number: DCS 2.7.1.7139 Next update: To be announced - Open Beta Public testing build Currently version number: DCS 2.7.2.7910.1 Open Beta Next update: Fix patch Planned today 23 June 2021 ( subject to change ) - Thank you Edited June 23, 2021 by Phantom88 new info 1 Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Phantom88 said: Stable Version Currently version number: DCS 2.7.1.7139 Next update: To be announced - Open Beta Public testing build Currently version number: DCS 2.7.2.7910.1 Open Beta Next update: Fix patch Planned today 23 June 2021 ( subject to change ) - Thank you Quote Next update: Fix patch Planned today 23 June 2021 ( subject to change ) I wouldn't get your hopes up mate System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 In today's Official News, it reads: Quote Aerges has announced that the DCS: C-101 Aviojet has reached its final version state in the latest Open Beta update. Shouldn't that be AvioDev instead? Or did I miss something and those 2 are the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Open Beta Public testing build Currently version number: DCS 2.7.2.8165.2 Open Beta Next update: Planned 30th June 2021 ( subject to change ) 5 4 2 Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Blimey! Marianas Map release :) 5 System :- i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12 core, ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming, 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz, 24GB Asus ROG Strix Geforce RTX 3090, 1x 500GB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, 1x 2TB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, Corsair 1000W RMx Series Modular 80 Plus Gold PSU, Windows 10. VIRPIL VPC WarBRD Base with HOTAS Warthog Stick and Warthog Throttle, VIRPIL ACE Interceptor Pedals, VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base with a Hawk-60 Grip, HP Reverb G2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Yep, and the update is live but can't see any patch notes. Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Northstar98 said: Yep, and the update is live but can't see any patch notes. Here atm https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/changelog/ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Furiz said: Here atm https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/changelog/ Awesome, cheers! Edited June 30, 2021 by Northstar98 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryzor Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Is there new cloud shadowing implemented with this patch? I saw in Mariana´s video new shadowing on the ocean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafergon Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Gryzor said: Is there new cloud shadowing implemented with this patch? I saw in Mariana´s video new shadowing on the ocean That's the thing that I'm expecting with more anticipation, since I fly most of the time over water. We will find out soon... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recluse Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Anyone seeing the Marianas map? I don't see it or the Instant Action Missions mentioned for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafergon Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Recluse said: Anyone seeing the Marianas map? I don't see it or the Instant Action Missions mentioned for it. I can't see the map. got a 700mb update on Steam, but no Marianas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 ^ You've got to install it via module manager first, just like payware maps. 6 1 i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippis Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Recluse said: Anyone seeing the Marianas map? I don't see it or the Instant Action Missions mentioned for it. 1 minute ago, Jafergon said: I can't see the map. got a 700mb update on Steam, but no Marianas Don't know if it's just steam being odd. For the standalone, you have to update and then it'll show up in the module manager as a separate thing you need to install. e:f;b Edited June 30, 2021 by Tippis 1 ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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