Ever bought an aircraft you did not fly at all?

[Rudel_chw]

33 minutes ago, dawgie79 said:

I have flown all modules at least once with the exception of the Mi-8. 

I was the same with the Mi-8 … until I found these video tutorials by @vsTerminus, which provided the inspiration and real desire to give this bird a chance:

 

 

It’s actually a very enjoyable bird

 

[Baco]

 yes I have more modules than I can fly, but hey on day Ill retire and I will have a hangar full of planes and helos to fly

Besides some Modules I just Have to have. Specially anything form early cold war till the 80s.

But I try to support the new 3rd parties: got the C-101 so I could get my hands ne the F1, Got the MB 339 more than for being Argentinian, to support india Foxtrot so they can make the Gina (Fiat G-91) , got the JF 17 on the first day I believe that a grate job deserved my wallet vote. 

I do have the L-39 I bought it when i had a bunch of cash and got into DCS, i read wonderful reviews of it as a grate module.. I flew a few training and never ever again.

I have every chopper except the Apache (to complex for me right now, having trouble keeping up with more than three modern modules at a time)

Will not get the main stream like  F-15E I already played it in two or three previous incarnations, I want new stuff, not the same old planes just more accurate. dont care much for post 2000 either, the EF will not be coming to my hanger soon. but I am expecting lots of goodies, mig 23, Pucara, A 29, Mirages all and every one of them (yes I have 2k and F1), the century fighters, first day buy for me... A-7. F-8, probably F4U too, Mig 17, SU 17/22... Anything analog basically  

Enough ranting LOL, yeah I am a H@re for modules, Love them I cant get enough... I used to collect scaled Models, now I buy digital  DCS Modules. I can admire them and fly them too.

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Baco

[dburne]

Yep quite a few actually. Doubtful at this point I will have time in my life time to truly learn all I have purchased lol.

[Eldur]

I have all the modules, but never sat in the C-101 "Hair Dryer Of Doom" yet (snagged for 50% off in a sale when they started pumping out patch notes like crazy) and the MB-339 full release - to be fair, I haven't flown anything else since either except for trying to fix my ultimately subpar performance that 2.8 introduced. I had more fps on my old 3570k / 1080 with the G2 at 40% steam res (somewhere in the neighborhood of 2300-2400px vertical) than I have now on my 5800x / 3070 in 1200 pancake. Tried flicking all the switches in DCS and the NVCP as well as HAGS and even a few things in BIOS, updated all drivers and Windows to 22h2, nothing helped so far. I guess I'll be sitting this out as I'm confident it will get better eventually. The weird thing about this is it starts out all good, even in VR, until I select a plane and hit Fly. Then the rate crashes from ~60ish in VR down to 20 and from 120+ down to 30-40ish in pancake. Checked firewalling the power settings of both CPU and GPU already (like selecting prefer max perfpormance in nvcp and setting the min CPU rates to 100% in Windows advanced power settings), the GPU is firewalled 100% all the time during this and I never saw that before 2.8 (typically it was always the CPU hogging at 100% and the GPU somewhere in between 30-90% depending on situation). It even carries out to the menu which will run in low frame rate then as well until I restart the sim completely. But to quote Jay, "I digress!"

But apart from that, I have flown all the modules at least to a "I learned how to do like 80-90% of the things, but I might have forgotten a lot of it already" state. I'd say my top "dumped a ton of hours into" modules are the F-Teens, the A-10C, the Ka-50, the AV-8B and the Viggen.

Oh, and I've never even loaded up Normandy at all. I guess my debut will be when the upgrade is installed...

[Rudel_chw]

4 hours ago, Eldur said:

trying to fix my ultimately subpar performance that 2.8 introduced

To digress a bit more, on my PC the performance since yesterday patch seems to be significantly better (in pancake mode, with the Mirage F1 at Syria .. the fps are now 50-60 rather than 40-50, but I have not seen anyone else comment on this so I hope it is not my imagination.

[AKULA_OPTIMUS]

Nope, I have periods when I fly one aircraft most of the time, but these always rotate, so through the year I fly all the modules that I own, don´t have many, but I try to enjoy all of them, and will do the same with the ones I´m going to buy in the future.

[giullep]

I have only in hangar.. mb339, bs3, mi8..i use the viper..a little the av8..the f-14 e the f-18 inthe past..

[Napa]

Yep

• Harrier
• Yak-52
• Mi-8
• F-86
• Normandy Map
• Channel Map
• FC3 module

I really love to give that Harrier a go, but I just can't find the free time to do it. Razbam keeps updating so I guess the module is still WIP, so I don't mind trying it on a later date when it's fully finished.

[Harry.R]

Not flown at all (hardly):

Mig-21, Hawk, Marianas

Not flown much these days:

F86, P47, Spitfire, P-51D, Mi-8, KA-50, KA-50-2, KA-50-3, Mi-24, F-18, F-16, A-10C-1, A-10C-II, Mirage 2000, Tomcat, Normandy, Persian Gulf, Channel

Flown loads and put away wet:

AV-8B, Mosquito, Gazelle, Apache, Mirage F.1, Syria, Cauc

I have a collection fetish.  I would like to have the option to be able to donate some of the 'not flown so much' modules and maps to people who would fly them.

 

[Furiz]

On 12/22/2022 at 8:00 PM, Harry.R said:

I would like to have the option to be able to donate some of the 'not flown so much' modules and maps to people who would fly them.

It would be nice to have the option but I guess it wont happen cause ppl would probably start selling them and sale of modules is not allowed by the End-User Liscence Agreement.

[QuiGon]

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Ever bought an aircraft you did not fly at all?

Yes: FC3

I bought way back when the MiG-21 was the most modern full fidelity fighter in DCS and actually did a few flights with the F-15C, but the low fidelity simulation of it really turned me off. Then the M2000C arrived, followed by other 4th gen full fidelity modules, so I didn't really touch FC3 anymore since then.

Edited December 30, 2022 by QuiGon

[Lace]

Only a couple of FC3 have never been flown, but most modules will have at least the occasional flight.  I definitely have my favourites, and most anticipated releases, but with the complex modern stuff there are simply not enough hours in the day to properly learn them all.  90% of my DCS flying is in the same two or three modules.  I bought BS3 on release, took a couple of minutes to set up the controls, had a quick 20 minute flight, and then thought, nope, there is no way I am going to learn this one.  Not to disrespect to the hard work which has undoubtedly gone into it, but I just know that it will be a permanent fixture in the back of the hanger, gathering dust with the others.  There are some modules you can just jump into and have a go with minimal reading (MB339 for instance, most WWII aircraft), but others are just too different from my calibrated normal to be worth the effort and the risk of negative habit transfer (Tomcat, Apache, anything Russian or Swedish).

My go-to fixed wing is the Viper, until the Tornado.  For Rotary it is the Hip and Gazelle, until the Kiowa.

Same for maps.  Marianas and South Atlantic are hardly used.  Most of my flying is NTTR, Caucasus or Syria.

Personally, even if I know I'm not going to fly a particular module very often, I would still buy it to support the devs.  The next module they produce may be one of my favourites.

[Ram69]

I think maybe the su-33 that came randomly included in something I bought last year (Supercarrier, maybe?). Along with that, I purchased the F14 and 18. Those two have seen little more than a precursory fly around, and an attempted aerial refuel in the f 18, which ended in fratricide . I bought that stuff a year ago or so and it's sat in the hangar along with everything as I've not played since shortly after the apache came out until recently again. 

I've probably learned (and forgotten and re-learned again) the a10c the most, followed maybe by the blackshark. I'm on my way (for the 2nd time) with the apache, which is my precious. Getting hooked on it now. 

Other stuff I own has had at least a small handful of hours flying around and such, like the huey. I did recently pick up the channel map, which I haven't even flown on yet. Was thinking of getting a ww2 bird for some janes ww2 fighters nostalgia. It'll probably mostly sit in my hangar though. 

[OnionSpider13]

The only modules I don't have are the two deprecated ones (BS1 and Hawk) and the CEII. Technically I don't have all the individual FC3 aircraft (except Su-33), but I purchased the entire FC3 pack together. It kind of annoys me that the store shows the rest as "not owned," but it's fine. I have all the terrains, and almost all the campaigns.

I echo what a lot of people on here say: I want to see DCS continue to grow, so it is worth it to me to purchase modules that I may only ever do a quick free flight... except for the CEII, haha. I still don't understand why that plane is in this game.

[BuzzU]

Not one I never flew but one I didn't fly much.

P-47

I thought i'd like it more.

[Kev2go]

have only a few hours of flight in the I-16. Not having a trim option and having to always keep my hand on the stick and keeping it pointed upwards no matter the speed or have the plane just take a nosedive was a deal breaker for me, even if it is a "feature" not a bug.

 

aside from that. I dont really fly the trainers anymore although i did put in a fair bit of time flying the L39C/ZA back in the day.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Kev2go

[Andy1966]

  Hi, Interesting question. It made me go back and look at my logbook.. I started flying DCS Back when 1.2 went to 1.5.... so there were only the A-10C, Ka-50. MiG-21. Flaming Cliffs 3, P-51, Mi-8 and Huey and either the 109 or the dora I can't remember which one was first. First I just flew the TF-51 and the SU-25T. I had more time in the -25T than the Mustang (I had a lot of time in he P-51 in other sims) and that's what started my fascination with Russian aircraft. Then having seen the A-10 fly over my house at 250 Ft. a thousand times, I purchased FC3. I flew only the A-10A and F-15 at first. (I got my MOH in the F-15, I still remember that mission, wow, what a mission, 6 kills and landed). then dabbled with the SU-27 some. Then I got my 109. That airplane made a 45 year old man run home at lunchtime just to do touch and gos in a cartoon 109 for 20 minutes, lol. At this point, I was hooked, it was easy to keep up because there were only so many aircraft and helicopters, and I flew them all. Then I got my A-10C. and Ka-50...., but this thread is about airplanes you don't fly so...when i purchase a module, the first thing I do is a cold start, and see if I could do a cold start and take off out of the box, while mapping and clearing up the control settings, so that at least I can jump in and do a cold or auto  start and take off . (usually not). There were some I flew a lot that that changed so often I had to move on. I have not flown more than 5 or 6 different planes or choppers this past year or two, as Time and commitments got in the way a lot in the last few years, but I have more spare time now, so I have flown most of my aircraft and helicopters in the last 6 months or so. I go through cycles ...props, helios, jets, props helios,jets. it may take me a year or two for the cycle to come back around, but yes I do fly all my modules

[giullep]

Yes…unused at all..black shark, mi 8, mb339

[303_Kermit]

-F-16C literally I bought it only to support DCS / ED. Gen +4 isn't interesting for me at all: F16 I (eventually) would like to fly is F-16A & F-16C bl.25/30 with AiM-7 missiles. I never sit inside a cockpit. F-16CM bl.50 is for me attractive like chlamydia. Lack of any serious PvP opponent accept other F-16 makes it "no go" for me.
-F-18C same as above - I would rather fly F-18A
-F-14 I will fly it and I will enjoy, but ... after 5000 hours in Phantom II

I spend my time in L-39 (Mainly C variant for IFR /VFR flights, also as main plane in Virtual Fighter School) P-47, Bf-109, MiG-15, MiG-19, MiG-21, F-5E and F-86F is my next goal. Actually I started P-47 campaign ... just for immersion while jumping on F-86F

I flew also some FC3 planes. As everybody
My best regards

Edited January 3, 2023 by 303_Kermit

[schurem]

I buy aircraft that I don't fly all the time. Heck I even got gifted one that I hardly ever fly (Spitfire). I love them all though, dearly. There's only so many hours in a day, and that means I'm often flying the one I know well, or that I have an ongoing SP campaign in, instead of one of the hangar queens. Truly an embarassment of riches!

[HoBGoBLiNzx3]

LOL yes. The A-10. Bought it and flew it once. I was in the middle of learning another module though and just never bothered to dive into that one..

[Gasman6]

In a word: No.

 

I've bought only two modules so far: The Christen Eagle II for familiarizing myself with the DCS flight and atmospheric modeling, and the A-10C II which is the only airship I am presently interested in flying. I may eventually migrate to rotary wing one day, the Apache is an attractive next step. It is more likely my next plane will be a warbird, like the P-51D.

[Glide]

I got the AH-64D when it first came out, but just got airborne with it this week.  Got my first gun kill today.  I absolutely love it!  Fabulous module!

[jonfog]

Eh, all but the Christen Eagle and I-16.

As soon as I see "NEW" or "SALE" I tend to hit the "Buy" button...

I guess the main problem with this hard-core sim is that it plays out 1:1 with real life. So if a new complex AC takes 200 h of training to get proficient at, well you have to invest 200 h of your daily life. And the bad part is that there are no "basic traning" campaigns, almost all campaigns expects you to be a hot-shot with 2000 hours flight time. The "training" missions that comes with a new AC are more of a "introduction" to different systems/situations. And they are rarely maintained. How often have I not been sitting waiting for a training mission to continue?

So you have to build your own training missions in the ME and spending time on this, means there is less time for actual flying...

[draconus]

2 hours ago, jonfog said:

So you have to build your own training missions in the ME and spending time on this, means there is less time for actual flying...

Imo you save time and make training optimal by building the missions for yourself. You don't have to waste time for the instructions and advices that you already know from the manual.